Where is Nigel Farage?

Reform have their reasons, a different agenda to the 7 Labour MP's. Farage (in the Telegraph, but a paywall) so quoted the DailyMail

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13530147/Nigel-Farage-says-people-encouraged-children-twice-wed-father-four-backs-scrapping-two-child-benefit-cap-tax-breaks-married-couples.html

Farage wants Britons to have more children

"The Reform UK leader told the ITV general election debate that 'we should encourage people to have children', while he backed greater tax relief for married couples.

Asked if he agreed with Mrs Braverman, Mr Farage said: 'I think we should encourage people to have families.

'I think we should encourage people to have children. I think we should also encourage people in marriage to have some tax benefits as well. We've got to help people.'

The issue of a falling UK birthrate has become something of a cause célèbre on the right, who argue it makes the UK reliant on immigration

It's the right thing to do and everyone knows it. I was utterly opposed to Corbyn. Rosie Duffield spoke out against it as did Gordon Brown, they arent what I would describe as Corbynites.

There is more than one way to take families and children out of poverty. And doing something that might push up inflation etc isn’t going to help anyone. As soon as the government feels the country can afford to remove the two children cap they will. It isn’t as if they are the ones that implemented it or had a PM that crashed the economy. Imo the 7 MP’s who voted against it are all Corbynites who just want to cause trouble for Starmer. As for Reform, of course they will vote in any way that can cause problems for the government even though they don’t appear to have a credible economic policy if their own.

I am guessing she was banned. She once told me that my children would have nothing to do me, that was fun.
The world is a funny place isnt it going back to Farage. Labour have just voted to keep two child benefit cap, suspended 7 Mps who voted against it. Reform voted to scrap it.

Sturgeon even.

Whatever happened to Volvo ( or something like that? ) she used to be on here all day every day saying how wonderful Nicola Surgeon was.

Joseann 👍🏻

Well I am such an air head that I have no idea who is missing.

Joseann 👍🏻👏👏👏

Exactly Iam64, but the given quote was probably taken out of context of the whole thread. It needs to be read in its entirety.

What I dislike is when other posters start ganging up and pile on in order to make someone a victim, even after they apologise.

And yes, a couple of people are missing because several posters did just that and made them look like troublemakers. And yes, I think that is unfair and I don't like to see anyone badly treated. And yes, if I get suspended for saying this, at least I will have said it as it is.

I have noticed the goading. I haven't noticed deletions because I'm quite the puerile airhead - I think that was what I was called

Please don't give up Iam64

We need to read your eminently sensible posts.

I dislike the back and forth and often try to avoid it. I don’t want to scroll by on this occasion. I don’t agree that growstuff was vindictive or childish. She simply checked out the reality of a post, the posted the results.
I’ve enjoyed gransnet for a long time but recently came close to giving up.
Imo there have been many goady posts. We have two well known posters missing. I’ve no idea but I noticed one serially deleted on one conflicted thread, so I’m wondering about suspensions.

Dickens. He did but one of the things about Clacton is that it has an older and predominantly white population. The median age is 50 compared to the national average of 39. Those who are working age are poorly skilled.

This has a lot of data for Clacton.

assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/6603f6bc9741c5001139dc41/Clacton-on-Sea.pdf

and shows the comparative degree of deprivation.

It has had 60 million in levelling-up funding:

www.tendringdc.gov.uk/lu/lu-in-tendring

He talks casually about bringing in private investment but unclear what the money would be used for and whether he understands the particular issues that this very mixed constituency has e.g. why is there so much crime? 129 reported crimes for every 1000 of population (2023) with a population of only 53,000. That’s almost 7,000 crimes in a relatively lightly-populated constituency. I’m not so very far away in a much larger city not town and the comparative number is 35 per 1000. What’s going on in Clacton constituency and what is Farage planning to do about it?

So it would have been good to have heard ten minutes on what he plans for Clacton - many maiden speeches focus on local issues - but he’s so obsessed with immigration and ECHR that I really can’t see him doing much for his constituents. Possibly the worst person they could have elected and the majority of people did not vote for him. I think they’ve been cheated.

As for the immigration part of his speech today - this a few years old and known but worth repeating:

Thom Brooks, Professor of Law and Government, ... comprehensive report into the issue of asylum seekers using small boats to cross the Channel to Britain. A key finding of the 55 page report is that the Government's Brexit deal is a primary factor.

No small boat arrivals are recorded prior to 2018 when the UK was a part of a returns arrangement with the EU whereby anyone making the crossing could be returned. But the Government's Brexit deal did not include any agreement on a new returns arrangement and so returning migrants became far more difficult - and small boat crossings grew quickly.

The leader of the Brexit Party started the fire and now he wants us all to lose our rights under ECHR as a result.

www.durham.ac.uk/departments/academic/law/news-and-events/news/2023/february/new-report-on-small-boat-crossings-launched-by-professor-thom-brooks/

ronib

No politician cares JaneJudge

any that do are few and far between

I can’t believe people search for comments other people said 3 years ago. How do they remember it? They must keep a spreadsheet or something.

No politician cares JaneJudge

Nigel Farage doesn't care about any of you, yet you argue amongst yourselves

Let’s hope you never forget what you comment growstuff or have your words twisted or you may not find it so amusing.

To be fair to the poster who used the word "uncouth" about AR, the actual title of that whole thread was:
^Uncouth Angela Rayner doing Labour no favours^(519 Posts),
so it stands to reason that it might not have been her choice of word, but she used it in context as had nine other posters had done before her. And no doubt several afterwards.
I remember because I was on that thread, and I'm good at back searching too!

Oreo

I’d say the moral of the story growstuff was trying not to be childish and vindictive.Not a good look.

Hahaha!

Merion

Yes, Farage made his maiden speech at 15:11. Ten minutes banging on about immigration, criticising former members no longer in the HoC. He ended by calling for a referendum to leave the European Court of Human Rights in order to deport people. Total silence other than from other Reform MPs.

Well he did also say he'd do his damnedest to bring business and investment to Clacton - but admitted he couldn't make any promises.

Other than that, well it was par for the course really.

But - Richard Tice is going to make Boston and Skegness Great Again. Very Bracing (Skegness, that is).

Sorry Oreo crossed posts.

DiamondLily

Well, he’s in the US at the moment, as a Trump lackey. But, of course, he is still serving his constituents in Clacton:🙄

www.independent.co.uk/tv/news/nigel-farage-donald-trump-clacton-b2581778.html

No, he is not in the USA.

NF has made his maiden speech in the House of a commons this afternoon

I’d say the moral of the story growstuff was trying not to be childish and vindictive.Not a good look.