Where is Nigel Farage?

Koalama, yes I agree with you. Trump showed great courage, he could have been killed as so many have been in America, but he carried on. Nigel Farage I feel will prove to be vindicated as time will show.

I can't imagine that Trump felt comfort d by having Farage visit him to say sorry he had a sore ear, I can't imagine that F is too good as a counselor if he has psychological issues as anyone might have after such an incident
If it was to console him it didn't set a good example, TRump doesn't seem to have done likewise to the family of the poor chap who was actually killed, rather than have a sore ear.
He could have sent a nice bunch of flowers with a card. Wed think differently were it a family member of his who had been shot at.
It's not customary for MPs to do that, any representative should be an official representative unless there are other reasons why an MP should go, perhaps they had been colleagues on an international.programme that sort of thing.
Does NF actually live locally now (and I presume if he does it's not in Jaywick), MPs should have at least a pied a terre in their constituency or nearby, or live close enough to hold regular surgeries and be there to act as a constituency MP.

Koalama

I'm a bit late to the replies here, but I think people are scared of Nigel Farage, they never seem to leave him alone, as I'm late in replying, what about Angela raynor and her trip to Italy then??? Is she now not needed here!!. I voted reform and stand behind Nigel, those that didn't, that's fine but try looking at what/who you voted for are up too, as what they are doing/ not doing!!

Yes, I am afraid of him. I think he’s dangerous. As for my newly elected Labour MP she keeps us up to date on Facebook with what she’s doing along with supporting local businesses and charities.

Oh don't you all love to hate him, i find it hilarious TBH that you all care enough to keep dissing him and keeping him relevant!

Its unclear whether Farage has actually seen Trump: this was Friday, I dont know where he is now.

ca.news.yahoo.com/nigel-farage-liz-truss-2-101211100.html

Mt61

Koalama

I'm a bit late to the replies here, but I think people are scared of Nigel Farage, they never seem to leave him alone, as I'm late in replying, what about Angela raynor and her trip to Italy then??? Is she now not needed here!!. I voted reform and stand behind Nigel, those that didn't, that's fine but try looking at what/who you voted for are up too, as what they are doing/ not doing!!

Small bedside fan

In what world is an MP going away from Friday to Sunday on the weekend in which parliament should have broken up for the summer break to attend a wedding the same as an MP skipping parliamentary business, in the middle of the week?

Koalama

I'm a bit late to the replies here, but I think people are scared of Nigel Farage, they never seem to leave him alone, as I'm late in replying, what about Angela raynor and her trip to Italy then??? Is she now not needed here!!. I voted reform and stand behind Nigel, those that didn't, that's fine but try looking at what/who you voted for are up too, as what they are doing/ not doing!!

Small bedside fan

Well said Urnstongran

The fact that Farage and the Reform Party only won five seats is due entirely to the vagaries of the first past the post system. The Lib Dems won over seventy seats with only half a million more votes than Reform. Our current government had just 34% of the vote, less than they polled under Corbyn when they lost! The voter turnout was around 60%. Do we honestly think we have a representative government? Like it or not, there is far more support for Reform around the country than is shown by their results and certainly here on GN!

mokryna

*Mt61*. I think this paper will make things clearer regarding what you call absolute debacle of a withdrawal almost overnight and without warning.

The departing Trump Administration had left the Biden Administration with a date for withdrawal, but no plan for executing it.

www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/US-Withdrawal-from-Afghanistan.pdf

Thank you for that article - it showed that events were at least 6 years in the making and profoundly affected by a whole series of muddled decisions before Biden came to power.

Mt61. I think this paper will make things clearer regarding what you call absolute debacle of a withdrawal almost overnight and without warning.

The departing Trump Administration had left the Biden Administration with a date for withdrawal, but no plan for executing it.

www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/US-Withdrawal-from-Afghanistan.pdf

Well no it's very divided obviously. I can completely understand how Trump is there, in the same way I can understand Farage, Brexit.

Hilltop

I do wonder, with all these negative comments about Donald Trump on this thread, how on earth has he got to the position he is now in? If he is to be President of the USA someone must be going to vote for him. So does the American population largely disagree with posters here?

As some Americans are posting against Trump here, and he failed to be re-elected 4 years ago, I can only assume that the US population is not fully in agreement with him...

ronib

I thank Nigel Farage for showing basic human compassion towards a friend. And I wish that our Foreign Secretary knew when to keep his mouth shut!

Trump doesn’t need any compassion ( ok I don’t wish him dead, but…) the minute he realised he was safe and only grazed …he stands up and shouts violence… “Fight!” Raising his fist.
Once home the first thing done is to monetise the event by pleading with his supporters for more money after his trauma!
Now wearing a large bandage where a small plaster would probably do! Yuck!

I do wonder, with all these negative comments about Donald Trump on this thread, how on earth has he got to the position he is now in? If he is to be President of the USA someone must be going to vote for him. So does the American population largely disagree with posters here?

MayBee70

I don’t understand why Trumps followers are happy to see him on a stage next to his wife knowing that when she had just had a baby he was off having sex with a porn star. As if it never happened. Or, if it did it didn’t matter even though they seem to be obsessed with family values and religion. Don’t they have the Ten Commandments written on the walls of some schools?

I don’t understand Trump followers …period!

Here in Northern Ireland our lot were paid for doing nothing for years and we wonder at the state we are in

Mt61

Far right views? You seem to have a very odd sense of what is right and far right but I guess if you listen to the left wing media long enough anyone who disagrees with you is far right.
As for Afghanistan, it wasn’t Trumps war and yes he had plans for an ‘organised’ withdrawal which didn’t take place. But then Biden oversaw the absolute debacle of a withdrawal almost overnight and without warning, causing unnecessary loss of life amongst other things. You really want to go into women’s rights and suppression of speech? With the left basically removing safe spaces for women and the whole suppression of speech (eg anyone mentioning Hunter Bidens laptop before the last election) and cancel culture emanating from the left? Not to mention the removal of parents rights in CA with Newsom’s new Bill. Really? And if you’re talking about abortion rights Trump is leaving that down to individual states.
As for CNN now being right leaning I suggest you check your facts - a quick Google search on their political leanings will tell you that. They have constantly been relaying that Biden was sharp as a tack when anyone with an ounce of sense knows he has been in cognitive decline for probably at least the last two years if not longer. Biden’s mental state ‘seemed’ to come as a real shock to them after the debate with Trump which I think tells you everything you need to know about CNN. Anyway, we are never going to agree so we will have to agree to disagree and I will leave it at that.

These are all Fox News tropes .
A news station known for not being factual .
Cite your sources for CNN leaning left . There has been a new owner who has fired many of their left leaning journalists with right leaning ones .
My biggest bone to pick here is that you think that women’s right to making decisions about their own body is okay because it is
down to the states ! This has already caused death and injury in those states by forcing women to have babies they don’t want . Including young children . Those that start their periods early , for example and are raped . This is just the start of the retrograde of human rights in the USA. Project 2025 and its proposals will drag it further down the road of modern thinking and rights will be taken away one by one . What does this have to do with Farage ? He is cosying up to Trump and copying from his playbook . A dangerous game .

"The Democrats recently TRIED to put a bill through Congress aiming at exactly that…policing the borders, they know, as well as the Republicans, that the border issues have got out of hand. But what does Trump do? He gives the order to Repubicans who have a slim majority to KILL that bill…which they did…and WHY? Because if the Democrats were seen to be improving things at the border, that wouldn’t help him become President… Oh No …no he wants things to stay as chaotic, or get even worse, so he has a platform to cry “ the Democrats are doing nothing! I will solve it for you!”

Particularly hypocritical!

Urmstongran

Re Trump.
A politician’s sex and social life is of no interest whatsoever to me.
Think France - ooh la-la!
It’s what they do outside of the bedroom that influencers voters.

Re Farage.
What is so ‘abhorrent’ about wanting to police our own borders effectively so that we (a) know who is coming in and (b) giving the green light to those migrants we deem add fiscal value to our country?
“Come one, come all - whoever you are” isn’t working.
For me anyway.

I totally agree that peoples sex lives are their own…UNLESS they are vying to become the President or other positions of POWER. Knowing what we all know about Trumps sex life ( he articulated it so nicely in the recording where he said “you can grab them by the pussy…” etc) …don’t you think that all we know shows a Mans ( or Womans) MORAL character…and you should want better in a President or anyone in a position of power!
Oh la la …OK, but in France , and elsewhere, mistresses are discreet, nothing like the creepy antics Trump got ( and no doubt gets) up to! Epstein ring a bell?

The Democrats recently TRIED to put a bill through Congress aiming at exactly that…policing the borders, they know, as well as the Republicans, that the border issues have got out of hand. But what does Trump do? He gives the order to Repubicans who have a slim majority to KILL that bill…which they did…and WHY? Because if the Democrats were seen to be improving things at the border, that wouldn’t help him become President… Oh No …no he wants things to stay as chaotic, or get even worse, so he has a platform to cry “ the Democrats are doing nothing! I will solve it for you!”
Look at what happened to the border when he was in power…a measly few miles of WALL, now rusting and broken easily, thousands of CHILDREN torn away from their families, caged and no documentation, so hundreds still unable to be reunited… Mexico was supposed to pay for that Wall…never happened! And fact check him on all the current LIES that countries are emptying their prisons and insane asylums and sending all to the US! NOT true! Fact check him on the rest too…something like 30,000 lies told just this year alone.
I despair that intelligent people like yourself can’t see through all his deceptive illusions?

MayBee70

I don’t understand why Trumps followers are happy to see him on a stage next to his wife knowing that when she had just had a baby he was off having sex with a porn star. As if it never happened. Or, if it did it didn’t matter even though they seem to be obsessed with family values and religion. Don’t they have the Ten Commandments written on the walls of some schools?

The Ten Commandments on the wall are just in Louisiana at the moment , required bible studies in school in Arkansas .

I'm a bit late to the replies here, but I think people are scared of Nigel Farage, they never seem to leave him alone, as I'm late in replying, what about Angela raynor and her trip to Italy then??? Is she now not needed here!!. I voted reform and stand behind Nigel, those that didn't, that's fine but try looking at what/who you voted for are up too, as what they are doing/ not doing!!

Cossy

Urmstongran

Trump almost died people! Farage is a friend. Wouldn’t YOU go visit? I would.
Anyway he’s back home at the weekend. I hope every time NF leaves Clacton we’re not going to create a pile on!
Jeez.

Trump didn’t nearly die! He was grazed on his ear.

Farage is paid to represent Clacton and the surrounding areas, that’s where he should be or in Parliament, nowhere else until summer recess

Hear hear…or maybe ear ear! 🤣 No seriously I agree totally.
Farage is a nasty piece of work…just like Trump, both are devisive, and CAUSE the divisions ( and worse) so evident in the USA and creeping into the UK slowly if we’re not careful.
What did Clacton think they were doing? Why vote for a Trumpist Fascist?

Totally agree (who mentioned the little prick in bed)? Is this the same subject?

A pure mischief maker! Causes havoc wherever he goes. So divisive & full of hate 🤬
Will bring nothing to Clacton
Will bring nothing to the UK parliament
A pure waste of money! Let alone his expenses allowance and pension!
A total disgrace to humanity!
You can take it how much I loathe him