Where is Nigel Farage?

Urmstongran

Re Trump.
A politician’s sex and social life is of no interest whatsoever to me.
Think France - ooh la-la!
It’s what they do outside of the bedroom that influencers voters.

Re Farage.
What is so ‘abhorrent’ about wanting to police our own borders effectively so that we (a) know who is coming in and (b) giving the green light to those migrants we deem add fiscal value to our country?
“Come one, come all - whoever you are” isn’t working.
For me anyway.

Policing our borders is not an abhorrence Urms, but I do find it abhorrent that Farage champions the cause of a known misogynist (currently with charges against him) who believes that women are men's property - a man that Farage thinks is a good "role model" for young men.

At the moment, it doesn't matter much - but if Reform ever gained sufficient traction... I would be worried about how that party would conduct itself regarding women. One of their candidates - Lee Anderson - is on record telling a female opponent to "stay out of big-boy politics".

I can see Reform attracting a lot of disaffected young men who haven't made-it up the social ladder, nor had much success with the opposite sex, voting for a party that wants to put wimmin back in their box.

I don’t seem to remember us,at the time of the IRA bombings on mainland Britain, bombing Ireland into oblivion because of it. Which is what Israel is doing to Gaza.

Why would the government’s position on Gaza change after yesterday? The court has no ability to change anything, and it has no power.
The reason why Israel/Gaza is in the situation it’s in is purely because of 07/10. Terrorism.

Re Trump.
A politician’s sex and social life is of no interest whatsoever to me.
Think France - ooh la-la!
It’s what they do outside of the bedroom that influencers voters.

Re Farage.
What is so ‘abhorrent’ about wanting to police our own borders effectively so that we (a) know who is coming in and (b) giving the green light to those migrants we deem add fiscal value to our country?
“Come one, come all - whoever you are” isn’t working.
For me anyway.

Reform MPs and Pro Palestine MPs were voted in by their constituents on single issues ie Reform - Immigration and Pro Palestine - the government position on Gaza. The government position on Gaza will change especially after yesterday's ruling by the ICJ but the issues regarding immigration will remain an issue, that's why Farage is of interest. He is representative of views which some of us find abhorrent and others think are justified, that's not going to change.

I don’t understand why Trumps followers are happy to see him on a stage next to his wife knowing that when she had just had a baby he was off having sex with a porn star. As if it never happened. Or, if it did it didn’t matter even though they seem to be obsessed with family values and religion. Don’t they have the Ten Commandments written on the walls of some schools?

Lovetopaint037

Now that Trump is on the up and seemingly surviving court cases Farage is probably regretting his UK turnaround. Probably thinking that there are more opportunities across the water. He wants a foot in both camps.

Sorry, Trump has been convicted of three different cases .
Fraud
Sexual abuse
And 34 counts of falsifying business records which is a felony.
Farage looked a bit lost when he was interviewed in the USA.
I doubt Trump had time for him.

Freya5

Dickens

Chestnut

I'll just make a couple of brief points:
1/ People seem obsessed with Farage. I couldn't believe that here was another thread about him. I hope you are keeping track of all the other 649 members and their movements.
2/ I think it's a good thing that Farage is friendly with Trump. We are going to need all the help we can get with Vance as VP.

1/ People seem obsessed with Farage.

... not least the various media, where's he's frequently a feature in both the news and editorial columns.

But seriously, why you should think that it's an obsession, I have no idea, but it's quite normal in political circles - and GN News & Politics could loosely be called that - to discuss high-profile figures. Especially one who blustered his way back into the political limelight, finally winning a seat, and promising to be a thorn in Labour's side and is aiming at seeing 'Reform' ultimately being the catalyst for "a dramatic realignment of the centre-right of British politics"... something he believes the so-called 'silent majority' want.

Logically, for those of us interested in Politics - why would we not want to discuss him?

It is always him though.
My concern is the Islamists getting in on a Palestinian vote, nothing to do with helping their local people. Are you concerned that they blustered their way into parliament, on a subject that we have no control over. not even taking their oath in English, why would this be allowed.

No, it isn't always him.

However he wants to make big political changes, he's said so. He, and Reform, are a serious alternative to the Tory party - it means tempestuous times for Conservatives. Which is, or should be, interesting to everyone who follows the political scene.

So of course he's up for discussion. As is anyone else - like Galloway, Corbyn, etc, who want to change the face and dynamics of 'traditional' British politics.

He needs to be heard, good for him and I hope he keeps it up!

Farage does need to be watched, not as the newly elected MP for Clacton, (they deserve what they get) but because he is the self-appointed Leader of a political party which threatens to cause trouble in all sorts of directions. It may turn out to be a damp squib but with such an unstable parliament filled with MPs placed there through tactical voting rather than grass roots support, no viable opposition, and an ominous world situation, his influence may be greater than it deserves. Equally, if he goes rushing off to America at the slightest opportunity, who knows what will happen.

he should be forced to live in Jaywick

I would be quite happy not to listen to Nigel Farage ever again, nor Liz Truss. They are minor figures on the world's stage and an irrelevance in the case of Truss as she's no longer an MP.

Kandinsky

*Why are people so bothered if a number of Gransnetters want to discuss Farage? Just walk on by*

Absolutely, & I scroll past 99% of the political threads on here.
I know politics is all consuming to a few on here and that it fills a lot of your time, I get that, but Labour have won, they’ll be in power for years, why not celebrate that? Start threads about what Labour are up to ( that must be in the online news that you dissect everyday surely? )
I mean, why do you care if Farage isn’t doing his job for the people of Clacton?
Do you live there? Did you vote for him?
So why don’t you ‘scroll on by’ when you read about him?

It will never stop. You won the election but that’s not good enough. You’ll still want someone to vent at ( not sure why? ) And that will be Nigel Farage.
It’s just boring.

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Dickens

Chestnut

I'll just make a couple of brief points:
1/ People seem obsessed with Farage. I couldn't believe that here was another thread about him. I hope you are keeping track of all the other 649 members and their movements.
2/ I think it's a good thing that Farage is friendly with Trump. We are going to need all the help we can get with Vance as VP.

1/ People seem obsessed with Farage.

... not least the various media, where's he's frequently a feature in both the news and editorial columns.

But seriously, why you should think that it's an obsession, I have no idea, but it's quite normal in political circles - and GN News & Politics could loosely be called that - to discuss high-profile figures. Especially one who blustered his way back into the political limelight, finally winning a seat, and promising to be a thorn in Labour's side and is aiming at seeing 'Reform' ultimately being the catalyst for "a dramatic realignment of the centre-right of British politics"... something he believes the so-called 'silent majority' want.

Logically, for those of us interested in Politics - why would we not want to discuss him?

It is always him though.
My concern is the Islamists getting in on a Palestinian vote, nothing to do with helping their local people. Are you concerned that they blustered their way into parliament, on a subject that we have no control over. not even taking their oath in English, why would this be allowed.

Why are people so bothered if a number of Gransnetters want to discuss Farage? Just walk on by

Absolutely, & I scroll past 99% of the political threads on here.
I know politics is all consuming to a few on here and that it fills a lot of your time, I get that, but Labour have won, they’ll be in power for years, why not celebrate that? Start threads about what Labour are up to ( that must be in the online news that you dissect everyday surely? )
I mean, why do you care if Farage isn’t doing his job for the people of Clacton?
Do you live there? Did you vote for him?
So why don’t you ‘scroll on by’ when you read about him?

It will never stop. You won the election but that’s not good enough. You’ll still want someone to vent at ( not sure why? ) And that will be Nigel Farage.
It’s just boring.

Now that Trump is on the up and seemingly surviving court cases Farage is probably regretting his UK turnaround. Probably thinking that there are more opportunities across the water. He wants a foot in both camps.

Wyllow3

Why are people so bothered if a number of Gransnetters want to discuss Farage? Just walk on by.

He's promised to make waves politically so probably is quite happy to be discussed!

He is not exactly a delicate little flower that has to be protected from pesky GNetters...

It’s funny😄

Why are people so bothered if a number of Gransnetters want to discuss Farage? Just walk on by.

We can now all sleep easy in our beds knowing where he is.

Where is Nigel Farage?

In America.
That I believe, is the answer to the question.

Urmstongran

Trump almost died people! Farage is a friend. Wouldn’t YOU go visit? I would.
Anyway he’s back home at the weekend. I hope every time NF leaves Clacton we’re not going to create a pile on!
Jeez.

A lot of members here seem agog at the doings of Nige, usually the ones who don’t approve of him😂
I bet he’d be pleased at all the attention the minute he goes missing.

I think on the subject of CNN agree to disagree is a good idea.
The issues you raise probably need threads on them if GNers are interested, off topic on Farage.

Far right views? You seem to have a very odd sense of what is right and far right but I guess if you listen to the left wing media long enough anyone who disagrees with you is far right.
As for Afghanistan, it wasn’t Trumps war and yes he had plans for an ‘organised’ withdrawal which didn’t take place. But then Biden oversaw the absolute debacle of a withdrawal almost overnight and without warning, causing unnecessary loss of life amongst other things. You really want to go into women’s rights and suppression of speech? With the left basically removing safe spaces for women and the whole suppression of speech (eg anyone mentioning Hunter Bidens laptop before the last election) and cancel culture emanating from the left? Not to mention the removal of parents rights in CA with Newsom’s new Bill. Really? And if you’re talking about abortion rights Trump is leaving that down to individual states.
As for CNN now being right leaning I suggest you check your facts - a quick Google search on their political leanings will tell you that. They have constantly been relaying that Biden was sharp as a tack when anyone with an ounce of sense knows he has been in cognitive decline for probably at least the last two years if not longer. Biden’s mental state ‘seemed’ to come as a real shock to them after the debate with Trump which I think tells you everything you need to know about CNN. Anyway, we are never going to agree so we will have to agree to disagree and I will leave it at that.

Chestnut

I'll just make a couple of brief points:
1/ People seem obsessed with Farage. I couldn't believe that here was another thread about him. I hope you are keeping track of all the other 649 members and their movements.
2/ I think it's a good thing that Farage is friendly with Trump. We are going to need all the help we can get with Vance as VP.

1/ People seem obsessed with Farage.

... not least the various media, where's he's frequently a feature in both the news and editorial columns.

But seriously, why you should think that it's an obsession, I have no idea, but it's quite normal in political circles - and GN News & Politics could loosely be called that - to discuss high-profile figures. Especially one who blustered his way back into the political limelight, finally winning a seat, and promising to be a thorn in Labour's side and is aiming at seeing 'Reform' ultimately being the catalyst for "a dramatic realignment of the centre-right of British politics"... something he believes the so-called 'silent majority' want.

Logically, for those of us interested in Politics - why would we not want to discuss him?