So overseas countries are more worthy than all the UK women who missed out on years of pensions?
His idea seems to be that by giving all this money to these countries they can improve their countries so people will want to stay there and not come by boat!
My Tanzanian friend was here last night when it was on the news and couldn't stop laughing. She said it will never work because they all want to come to the UK whatever. She said Starmer is kidding himself.
She came here legally by the way about 20 years ago.
Casdon
I’m so pleased this has happened, and that it signals a change in our relationship with other countries. The years of selfishness are over at last.
I don’t know what you think has changed Casdon. We’ve been giving vast sums to other countries for years.
MayBee, it won’t make a blind bit of difference.
There’s simply not enough money in the Uk to uplift the third world….it’s an impossible situation.
Heaven forbid that we should attempt to make third world countries better places to live so that its peoples aren’t forced to migrate to other countries looking for a better way of life. Starmer is looking at the reasons why people risk their lives to get here. Makes sense to me.
Casdon seriously? It’s too hot here but the Uk has always given to third world countries via the aid budget…,
I am wondering when the years of selfishness will stop in the treatment of our own elderly people…..not to mention the NHS waiting list.
I’m so pleased this has happened, and that it signals a change in our relationship with other countries. The years of selfishness are over at last.
Heaven forbid that we may have a PM who is a human rights lawyer AND a do-gooder😱 There’s no hope for us is there
Terrible Primrose, just terrible. Why am I not surprised though? The £84m, apart from being a drop in the ocean, is, as someone said upthread, money down the drain. I fear Starmer is too much of a do-gooder to realise that.
Germanshepherdsmum
Unfortunately corruption is rife in these areas.
Exactly what my friend said last night. She says never give money or items direct to charities out there as they will disappear. She says if people want to help then pay a child’s school fees direct.
I know another lady (retired Head Teacher) who goes out to Africa at regular intervals to help the school kids. She got some sort of grant to buy Ipads for them. Next time she went out they had all gone. Stolen by staff and sold on. She says it is heartbreaking.
biglouis
*We want indignation with a bit of xenophobia thrown in*
There is nothing wrong with concentrating resources in your own country for use by the very people who paid the taxes, did the work and generated those resources.
Why do you think so many people voted reform? There is a large section of the population fed up with mawkish hand wringing wokery and being made to feel like aliens in their own country.
If looking after your own people first makes me a racust then proud to be a racist.
Brilliant post Biglouis👏👏 my thoughts exactly.”
Unfortunately corruption is rife in these areas.
That money will just be lining their governments pockets.. even if it was 84 billion, it would still be never enough!
Only parts of the Illegal Immigration Act are in force.
I'd rather it was given in aid than used feather cronies' nests.
That’s definitely not my reading of the Illegal Migration Act 2023 ….
Germanshepherdsmum 
Germanshepherdsmum
foxie48
The Conservatives spent the overseas aid budget on housing asylum seekers until they made most of them illegal. I think this is a much better way of spending overseas aid.
If not from the foreign aid budget, from where do you suggest the vast sums spent on housing and feeding asylum seekers should come?
The point is that it is no longer possible to do that unless the Illegal Migration Act 2023 is repealed the money will have to be found from a different budget.
Granmarderby10
Well we do have to at least acknowledge our own historical involvement as former colonisers of many of these ” problem” nations and regions.
Therefore it was sheer folly for the former government to reduce or cut the contribution Britain made towards foreign aid in order to pacify those who are by and large either ignorant about the importance of such aid or those who choose to believe that we as a nation have no such obligation to help, regardless of our history.
It won’t happen over night. But then think of all the money already spent on the failed and insane notion of re-directing migrants or would be asylum seekers to a place like Rwanda.
That money would have built a fair few “council” houses for the many many British citizens in dire need.
Maybe when all the people here have some where to call home, and when there is an asylum process that is fit for purpose, one that functions with clear policies and goals for who stays and who goes back if it’s safe to, and real teeth to police those that go off the radar there will be no peace.
I do agree with this in principle.
Well we do have to at least acknowledge our own historical involvement as former colonisers of many of these ” problem” nations and regions.
Therefore it was sheer folly for the former government to reduce or cut the contribution Britain made towards foreign aid in order to pacify those who are by and large either ignorant about the importance of such aid or those who choose to believe that we as a nation have no such obligation to help, regardless of our history.
It won’t happen over night. But then think of all the money already spent on the failed and insane notion of re-directing migrants or would be asylum seekers to a place like Rwanda.
That money would have built a fair few “council” houses for the many many British citizens in dire need.
Maybe when all the people here have some where to call home, and when there is an asylum process that is fit for purpose, one that functions with clear policies and goals for who stays and who goes back if it’s safe to, and real teeth to police those that go off the radar there will be no peace.
MadeInYorkshire
How kind of him ...
... and in the meantime there are veterans on the streets without housing; people unable to get GP appointments and MH care, and the disabled are left peeing in the garden and pooing in plastic bags because they are unable to pay to repair their only accessible toilet.
Which part of ‘it came from the Foreign Aid budget did you not understand’?
This money wouldn’t magically be spent on British Citizens, it’s ringfenced for foreign aid, which has been paid for many many decades. At least 40% of this budget has been spent within the UK over the last three years in Asylum Seekers.
If people would care to remember the £££££m wasted across the last 14 years, just briefly includes, £££m to the DUPS, by May, two lots of £££m given to France by Johnson, Rwanda, Trace and Trace, PPE, Truss trashing our economy.
My understanding is that the Foreign Aid budget was already cut this year prior to the GE.
For pity’s sake, let’s at least give this govt a few months to “bed in” and a year to show some progress.
Rome wasn’t built in a day, and the UK wasn’t ruined in a day either!
We want indignation with a bit of xenophobia thrown in
There is nothing wrong with concentrating resources in your own country for use by the very people who paid the taxes, did the work and generated those resources.
Why do you think so many people voted reform? There is a large section of the population fed up with mawkish hand wringing wokery and being made to feel like aliens in their own country.
If looking after your own people first makes me a racust then proud to be a racist.
My next door neighbours are African, the wife is a MH nurse
MadeInYorkshire
How kind of him ...
... and in the meantime there are veterans on the streets without housing; people unable to get GP appointments and MH care, and the disabled are left peeing in the garden and pooing in plastic bags because they are unable to pay to repair their only accessible toilet.
Absolutely zero to do with the OA budget.
We've always had a Foreign Aid budget, it hasn't suddenly appeared 15 days ago.
How kind of him ...
... and in the meantime there are veterans on the streets without housing; people unable to get GP appointments and MH care, and the disabled are left peeing in the garden and pooing in plastic bags because they are unable to pay to repair their only accessible toilet.
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