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Starmer gives £84 Million to Africa and Middle East

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Whitewavemark2 Fri 19-Jul-24 12:00:37

pascal30

OK

There are two channels for ODA

Bi-lateral - where the spending is earmarked for specific projects. So an example of this would be for family planning services in Mawali.

Multi-lateral - where a number of governments/organisations pool resources for identified projects. So the U.K. government will contribute to the world bank ODA.

pascal30 Fri 19-Jul-24 11:23:28

Whitewavemark2

Government information dated November 2023 - to orrect the hyperbole and misinformation.

It is no longer possible, if it ever was, for a country to determine its future alone. Climate change does not respect national boundaries, nor do pandemics. Conflicts are becoming more numerous, frequent, and longer lasting. War in one country can affect security thousands of miles away. Poverty, conflict, and climate change often go hand in hand and drive flows of refugees.

We are a part of the whole, like it or not.

Our interconnectedness also has many benefits. Global trade and finance lead to growth and jobs. When we collaborate, we can create changes that ripple out across the world. And when, alongside other countries, we spend a small proportion of our income on international development, it is not only the right thing to do; it is also the wise thing to do.

That's fine if the government can ensure that the money is actually used for the proposed projects... and not syphoned off by corrupt individuals

Whitewavemark2 Fri 19-Jul-24 11:13:30

Government information dated November 2023 - to orrect the hyperbole and misinformation.

It is no longer possible, if it ever was, for a country to determine its future alone. Climate change does not respect national boundaries, nor do pandemics. Conflicts are becoming more numerous, frequent, and longer lasting. War in one country can affect security thousands of miles away. Poverty, conflict, and climate change often go hand in hand and drive flows of refugees.

We are a part of the whole, like it or not.

Our interconnectedness also has many benefits. Global trade and finance lead to growth and jobs. When we collaborate, we can create changes that ripple out across the world. And when, alongside other countries, we spend a small proportion of our income on international development, it is not only the right thing to do; it is also the wise thing to do.

ronib Fri 19-Jul-24 10:55:22

Doubtless there will be a policy initiative in due course NotSpaghetti?

NotSpaghetti Fri 19-Jul-24 10:29:23

Maybe that's what he's working on ronib?

ronib Fri 19-Jul-24 10:26:01

It must be something about getting old but accuracy helps navigate the world …. So £84m is such an underspend on this project I wonder if the rest of the world would chip in?

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 19-Jul-24 10:23:02

foxie48

The Conservatives spent the overseas aid budget on housing asylum seekers until they made most of them illegal. I think this is a much better way of spending overseas aid.

If not from the foreign aid budget, from where do you suggest the vast sums spent on housing and feeding asylum seekers should come?

eazybee Fri 19-Jul-24 10:22:14

And where is all the money to come from to house the immigrants, legal and illegal, who will continue to come to this country?

Chestnut Fri 19-Jul-24 10:16:13

Well I've posted this before, but a refugee support lady in the UK said these are all the countries her 'clients' come from. So is Starmer going to provide education and support to all these countries?

Wyllow3 Fri 19-Jul-24 10:14:56

I was also interested in the article

"The government said it is redeploying staff from the now-scrapped Rwanda scheme to focus on a "rapid returns unit" to send people with no right to be in the UK back to their home country."

MaizieD Fri 19-Jul-24 10:14:11

NotSpaghetti

I suppose the title should really be:

Starmer redirects £84 million of existing foreign aid budget to Africa and Middle East

...if we want accuracy!

😆

Of course we don't want accuracy. We want indignation with a bit of xenophobia thrown in...

foxie48 Fri 19-Jul-24 10:12:04

The Conservatives spent the overseas aid budget on housing asylum seekers until they made most of them illegal. I think this is a much better way of spending overseas aid.

NotSpaghetti Fri 19-Jul-24 10:10:50

I suppose the title should really be:

Starmer redirects £84 million of existing foreign aid budget to Africa and Middle East

...if we want accuracy!

maddyone Fri 19-Jul-24 10:10:36

Indeed GSM, and so as Oreo says, the money might as well have been thrown down the drain.

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 19-Jul-24 10:08:47

Apparently £84m over the next three years. That will go nowhere and won’t stop people coming here in boats.

maddyone Fri 19-Jul-24 10:06:08

Maybe Starmer could make a start on our NHS.

maddyone Fri 19-Jul-24 10:05:00

Oreo

You may as well throw the money down the drain.😲

This.

NotSpaghetti Fri 19-Jul-24 10:03:04

Yes, Ronib from the existing foreign aid budget - and that it will be spent over three years on projects "to improve education and employment opportunities" as well as schemes to build resilience to wars and climate change.

keepingquiet Fri 19-Jul-24 10:02:36

What do people want? The far more wasteful Rwanda project? At least it's a far better idea to process claims at source than have these seemingly endless deaths in the channel?

ronib Fri 19-Jul-24 09:57:44

£84m - nowhere near enough imo. For Africa and the Middle East? Has this come out of the foreign aid budget?

Primrose53 Fri 19-Jul-24 09:50:15

www.itv.com/news/2024-07-17/starmer-to-host-major-european-summit-in-attempt-to-reset-eu-relations#

Oreo Fri 19-Jul-24 09:50:04

You may as well throw the money down the drain.😲

Primrose53 Fri 19-Jul-24 09:48:46

So overseas countries are more worthy than all the UK women who missed out on years of pensions?

His idea seems to be that by giving all this money to these countries they can improve their countries so people will want to stay there and not come by boat!

My Tanzanian friend was here last night when it was on the news and couldn't stop laughing. She said it will never work because they all want to come to the UK whatever. She said Starmer is kidding himself.

She came here legally by the way about 20 years ago.