Joe Biden resigns from the Presidential race.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13688559/white-dudes-harris-x-suspension-zoom-jeff-bridges-joseph-gordon-levitt.html?ico=authors_pagination_desktop

Old white men, the 'beige colour group' raised 4million in a short zoom call. Interesting groups are coming together for Harris.

I just heard Jon Stewart say that if Republicans think the Democrats cheated by swapping an old man for a younger candidate in the middle of their campaign, the Democrats can make this fair by allowing the Republicans to swap out their old man for a younger candidate - just to keep this competition fair. Good idea!

Wyllow3

A point surely is, she is an American. An American of mixed heritage/race, which many Americans are - Irish American, German American. So for example some Americans choose to use the term, Afro-American.
To say "Black African Women" implies she is black and directly from Africa, this generation.

So as well as being totally ignorant of her actual heritage, it implies "Not American" or "Unamerican".

Obama faced the same issues - claims were made he didnt have US citizenship - lots of SM conspiracy theories eventually proved wrong (but still helped dear in the ends of conspiracists)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_citizenship_conspiracy_theories

Exactly so, and there are already whispers emanating from the right wing that are questioning her citizenship, which as far as I am concerned has white privilege and racism written all over it.

A point surely is, she is an American. An American of mixed heritage/race, which many Americans are - Irish American, German American. So for example some Americans choose to use the term, Afro-American.
To say "Black African Women" implies she is black and directly from Africa, this generation.

So as well as being totally ignorant of her actual heritage, it implies "Not American" or "Unamerican".

Obama faced the same issues - claims were made he didnt have US citizenship - lots of SM conspiracy theories eventually proved wrong (but still helped dear in the ends of conspiracists)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_citizenship_conspiracy_theories

Iam64

Fleurpepper, Kamala’s father is of Jamaican heritage. Surely that means African slave heritage? To stress, that’s no problem for me

Well, she also has Asian heritage.

So why didn’t Farage say a black Asian woman?

We know exactly why. It is right out of Bannon’s mouth snd is the play into racism.

Iam64

Fleurpepper, Kamala’s father is of Jamaican heritage. Surely that means African slave heritage? To stress, that’s no problem for me

He describes himself as Jamaican American. so yes, hundreds of years back...

Yes Kamala is far too liberal for Trump and Vice. Her other problem for them is she’s an intelligent successful woman.

Well yes it's not their colour then is it, it's their views. I loathe identity politics, and I can claim the identity of being a woman

Fleurpepper, Kamala’s father is of Jamaican heritage. Surely that means African slave heritage? To stress, that’s no problem for me

Just listening to TRIP.

So they reckon that Harris who is from California, has the same problem as Starmer - so for California think Islington.

She will struggle to get the red neck vote.

My reflections are that there are many white males who back the interests of women and minorities without labelling them as marginal.

But there are reasons why more women vote democrat and the problem discussed above was that Farage has tried to normalise these interests as marginal, to dismiss, whereas they are central to peoples' lives.

Identity politics are divisive though, presumably if Farage can be dismissed as his views are those of a white man then Bidens views can also be dismissed.

The trouble is that the main issues are not the same state to state.
Arizona is very much immigration where for the rest it's the economy.

Yes. If you look at it there are 7% who are undecided- those are the ones to win over.
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Thanks for that.

The swing states are really the only ones that we need to look at.

She gets those, she’s won.

So🤞🤞🤞🤞

Just 4 points between them now in Arizona and less than that in the others.

WWM

Here is the Emerson College polling re the swing states as of Thursday:

emersoncollegepolling.com/july-2024-swing-state-polls-harris-trails-trump-in-arizona-georgia-michigan-pennsylvania-tied-in-wisconsin/

If Kamala Harris wins in November, which I pray she does, I’m afraid that trump and his little friends will insist the election was stolen, just like he did last time. It seems they are already planning for this by swearing the polls are wrong etc.

Harris is now ahead in the polls which is cheering.

The most important though are the 4-5 swing states - not sure how she is holding up in those?

Wyllow3

You mean his snide and bitter comments "the democrats won't get rid of a Black African Women", or has he said more?

This indeed- racist, ignorant, mysoginist, and more. Kamala is NOT African at all anyhow.

I checked out whole quote

The whole identity politics, that everyone must be divided up into different groups according to sexual preference or race, I’m not interested in any of that,” said Mr Farage

I think we should just judge people for who they are. Surely we should just pick people on ability

So having insulted Kamala though complete ignorance (Black African woman)

He now has consigned the struggles of people of colour and women of years and years - still very much on going - to

"oh its an identity thing".

Ignorant man (white, male, wanna be elitist)

On Express news, they quote Farage as saying, "“I think we should just judge people for who they are. Surely we should just pick people on ability?”

So doesn't that mean he contradicts his own principles and opinions by saying she can't be a president because her laugh is unattractive? (Unattractive to who?) He seems unstable if he doesn't even know his own views and based on what I have read about him, he sounds like he is still stuck living in the 1950s.

You mean his snide and bitter comments "the democrats won't get rid of a Black African Women", or has he said more?

Farage's comments on Kamala Harris were vile, and lies.

And her parents are both professors, at Berkeley and Stanford.

Yes, I was really pleased.

All eyes on choosing a VP candidate.