KAMALA HARRIS

The 'asparagus medium' on Tv this morning predicts Michelle Obama 😀

I have not read the whole thread, but want to add two thoughts. First, Trump is in a special category as far as many or most of his followers are concerned. He 'can do no wrong' - he himself said he could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and his followers would still follow him. He is a cult figure. Second, if I had the vote in America, I'd vote for almost anyone instead of Trump, and I guess there are people there who do have the vote, who ae not cult followers and who feel the same. I hope so.

Frenchgalinspain

Freya5

Wyllow3

Whitewavemark2

The other issue I think is that two days ago the American voter was faced with the choice between to old candidates, and many were not prepared to turn out to vote. This is definitely a game changer.

Yes, we now have an elderly candidate called Trump.

.....who recently couldn't recall (twice) that Obama was no longer president, confused the leaders of Turkey and Hungary, warned that the world was headed for a second — not third — world war, the statement re 1917 flu ending WW2) and called Hannibal Lecter (who he seemed to think was real) a "wonderful man."

On a par with Biden then , remember the president of Ukraine was called "Putin", and over the years has been the premier gaffe meister, of the whitehouse. including racism and misogyny,and snide asides against voters.
Just saying. See NYP Jo Bidens worst gaffes, and that was only until 2023.
So neither Trump nor Biden above reproach.
Hope Harris gets in, be good to see the President of America, a woman, will she be be beyond reproach?. Will she be friendly towards the UK. Interesting times. Much more so than our elections.

There is an old old adage or saying: "What goes around comes around" !

DT is very afraid of Kamala. This is why his plan is to discredit her and speak disgraceful lies about her on his " X " Twitter Pages.

Kamala is going to support: Women´s rights, Abortion, The Palestinians starving and being denied medical care, Dignified Employment & education regardless of one´s race or theological beliefs and she is polling extremely well.

Also according to The Guardian, Kamala and Robert F. Kennedy are doing better than Trump !!

excellent news..

Urmstongran you really are a lone voice in the wilderness here, and I agree with everything you say. Do we really want a President who can dance and laugh constantly? I don’t think so. She has done nothing here as far as I can see, and we have yet to hear what her policies are.

Thank you, Siope. More here from the Guardian:

www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jul/22/kamala-harris-democratic-delegates

Love her.

Going back to posts a couple of pages ago

All to do with Ohio which Rory Stewart was explaining in the latest TRIP. More here from NBC News. This piece predates Biden’s withdrawal but explains the dilemma and why Harris’s nomination needs to be be seen to be legitimate

www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/democrats-virtual-nomination-biden-ohio-ballot-rcna154339

I asked a friend who is a Democrat party former staffer about this, and voting for a nominee generally. I have a very detailed and interesting answer about who national delegates are and how they elect a Democrat nominee (which is different to how I thought it worked) if anyone wants to know.

This, much simpler, on Ohio:

‘Ohio....
Each State determines who is on its ballot. It is not nationally determined. There are all sorts of hoops ~ winning the primary, collecting signatures of registered voters... Most States election laws are such that the winner of the National Convention is on the General Election Ballot in November. Not Ohio. It has some weird laws about dates/days prior to the election ~ August 7th this year. I think she has to have the majority of National delegates behind her to make the ballot. If Harris does not meet those criteria her name will NOT be on the ballot. Voters will have to write her name in and Trump's will be on the ballot.’

Simpler still:

‘Ohio is a pain in the ass.’

There will be a virtual vote before August 7th, apparently.

Definitely a game changer !!!!!

Freya5

Wyllow3

Whitewavemark2

The other issue I think is that two days ago the American voter was faced with the choice between to old candidates, and many were not prepared to turn out to vote. This is definitely a game changer.

Yes, we now have an elderly candidate called Trump.

.....who recently couldn't recall (twice) that Obama was no longer president, confused the leaders of Turkey and Hungary, warned that the world was headed for a second — not third — world war, the statement re 1917 flu ending WW2) and called Hannibal Lecter (who he seemed to think was real) a "wonderful man."

On a par with Biden then , remember the president of Ukraine was called "Putin", and over the years has been the premier gaffe meister, of the whitehouse. including racism and misogyny,and snide asides against voters.
Just saying. See NYP Jo Bidens worst gaffes, and that was only until 2023.
So neither Trump nor Biden above reproach.
Hope Harris gets in, be good to see the President of America, a woman, will she be be beyond reproach?. Will she be friendly towards the UK. Interesting times. Much more so than our elections.

There is an old old adage or saying: "What goes around comes around" !

DT is very afraid of Kamala. This is why his plan is to discredit her and speak disgraceful lies about her on his " X " Twitter Pages.

Kamala is going to support: Women´s rights, Abortion, The Palestinians starving and being denied medical care, Dignified Employment & education regardless of one´s race or theological beliefs and she is polling extremely well.

Also according to The Guardian, Kamala and Robert F. Kennedy are doing better than Trump !!

Agreed, the authorities will def have a plan in place for this now.

NotSpaghetti

^Can’t possibly have a re-run of the rioting last time.^

But how to stop it if he doesn't win, Oreo?

I can guarantee you there would be a plan after what happened on January 6 th. That any protests will be far away from the White House and the Capitol.

Oreo

Whitewavemark2 I seem to remember some confusion about the counting in one State or part of a State, it was four years ago. I can try and google about it.
Anyhow it gave DT an excuse to demand a recount.

Which they did and it was a false accusation.
Like all his other accusations regarding voting fraud.
I do think they found a couple of republicans that committed voter fraud though😅
How many times do I need to write this .
It’s been thoroughly investigated.

Can’t possibly have a re-run of the rioting last time.

But how to stop it if he doesn't win, Oreo?

Mirren

Listening to Jeremy Vine on Radio 2 last week I was highly amused to hear his interview of an " Asparomancer ".
That's a,lady who predicts the future by " casting " asparagus, of all things.
She interpreted the way the spears fell " like runes " she said !
When asked who was going to be the next president she cast her asparagus and declared it would be neither Trump or Biden. That was before this news broke. It will be a woman ,she declared!
Well , who knew,?
A bit obvious, I guess.
She also predicted that Keir Starmer wasn't going to last long as PM or leader of the Labour party.
Let's wait and see.
You heard it first here !!!

Haha I remember seeing her on tv.She predicted an August GE and that the Labour Party would have a different leader by then.
She would do better to cook the asparagus spears and eat them with butter.😂

I agree MaizieD but I think there was more kerfuffel than usual, must go away and google it.

Oreo

Whitewavemark2 I seem to remember some confusion about the counting in one State or part of a State, it was four years ago. I can try and google about it.
Anyhow it gave DT an excuse to demand a recount.

Recounts are not evidence that the original count was inherently false or fraudulent, though. They happen all the time in the US & the UK system. Only Trump could spin them as evidence that the original count was fraudulent. And be believed ... 🙄

Listening to Jeremy Vine on Radio 2 last week I was highly amused to hear his interview of an " Asparomancer ".
That's a,lady who predicts the future by " casting " asparagus, of all things.
She interpreted the way the spears fell " like runes " she said !
When asked who was going to be the next president she cast her asparagus and declared it would be neither Trump or Biden. That was before this news broke. It will be a woman ,she declared!
Well , who knew,?
A bit obvious, I guess.
She also predicted that Keir Starmer wasn't going to last long as PM or leader of the Labour party.
Let's wait and see.
You heard it first here !!!

rocketship

Although a great deal of focus is on who will be elected president in the USA, folks need to remember that in the long run it is how many members each party gets elected to their House and Senate if laws are going to be passed.

Very true, Obama couldn’t get many laws through as the Republicans had the majority there.

Cossy

Wishing her and the Democrats all the luck in the world, be a complete disaster if Trump wriggles through as President again! Sorry, but to me, most of his supporters are knuckle dragging red necks

I so agree cossy, Trump wants to pal up with Putin who will run rings round him

Whitewavemark2 I seem to remember some confusion about the counting in one State or part of a State, it was four years ago. I can try and google about it.
Anyhow it gave DT an excuse to demand a recount.

rocketship

Although a great deal of focus is on who will be elected president in the USA, folks need to remember that in the long run it is how many members each party gets elected to their House and Senate if laws are going to be passed.

Yes, and that is a worry.

Oreo

NotSpaghetti

Oreo
It sure needs to be seen to be fair
-yes,
... the trouble is, only those with 'eyes to see' will be able to see the transparency.

The authorities in charge of the voting must be scrupulous, even more so than ever this time.Can’t possibly have a re-run of the rioting last time.

It won’t make a jot of difference, they were fair and utterly transparent last time.

The only hope is that the insurgent leaders will still be in prison.

Although a great deal of focus is on who will be elected president in the USA, folks need to remember that in the long run it is how many members each party gets elected to their House and Senate if laws are going to be passed.

NotSpaghetti

Oreo
It sure needs to be seen to be fair
-yes,
... the trouble is, only those with 'eyes to see' will be able to see the transparency.

The authorities in charge of the voting must be scrupulous, even more so than ever this time.Can’t possibly have a re-run of the rioting last time.

He’s got the attention span of a fruit fly, the emotional stability of a cranky toddler, the ethics of a mobster, the narcissism of a supermodel, the honesty of North Korea’s press agency and the foreign policy knowledge of a 'fry cook'.

Now that's excellent. Love it