KAMALA HARRIS

I'd be voting for her if I was in the USA. She fights for animal rights and women's rights and Indian/Black rights and her hubby is Jewish, even her husband's ex-wife praises her and back her up and she's a brilliant mum to her 2 teenage step-kids!

KAMALA! KAMALA!

nanna8

All the American Baptists I have met would vote for Trump because they see him as understanding them and they believe he has a more pro Christian, anti abortion, biblical stand. I get that but it is just a shame he is who he is. The people I have had dealings with are not what you would call ignorant or poor,either. Very upper middle class by our standards, very wealthy and very, very traditional.

Yet they are ignorant if they support Trump .
They choose to ignore facts and most likely watch Fox News which is like a televised version of the Daily Mail. Just because they are wealthy or upper middle class does not give them a free pass and excuse their ignorance . After January 6th there is no excuse for voting for Trump. He is a traitor and THAT is inexcusable .

When we lived in America, Syracute we were at first amazed by the people we met who wore Christianity in such a way as it was opressive - the pressure to join them at church was enormous - and they weren't easy to have a religious, social or even educational conversations with.
They were evangelical about their beliefs 40 years ago. They were kind and generous, and some were educated and locally "important" people but they didn't see the world as I did.

Not all Trump voters are ignorant - they just have a different way of looking at the world.
They know Trump's flawed.

Since time and migration, and social attitudes have moved on since we lived there. These "go back to the old days" Christians are struggling with cultural changes and see it as a war.

I know this is a simplification but basically, if your type of Christianity rules your life - you have to believe in Trump - as with all his (many) faults the alternative is (presumably) Satan.

The no1 thing will most likely be to put "God into government" as a patriot and a Christian. There is a feeling that other faiths and those of no faith are growing - and the Trumpian idea of "fighting" this is compelling.

Lots of things that the Democrats are "pro" are automatically "bad" - same sex marriage and abortion being high on the list but anything that is challenging the protestant norms. Catholics are Christian but are on the "wrong" path - rosary beads were burned in some areas as being, like Harry Potter things linked to sorcery.

There's a series of "conferences coming up soon where these "extreme" Christians will gather - ReAwaken America I think it's called.

This was in the Washington Post last month:

The biggest and most reliable core of the political religious right are White evangelicals, who Pew in 2023 found are 14 percent of the U.S. adult population. Of that group, 76 percent told the research firm PRRI last fall that they would vote for Trump

This was before Harris.
And before Trump was saved by God.

NotSpaghetti, Lots of things that the Democrats are "pro" are automatically "bad" - same sex marriage and abortion being high on the list but anything that is challenging the protestant norms. Catholics are Christian but are on the "wrong" path

Actually, whilst living in American holiday homes, many Southern Baptist attempted to "save" us, as Catholics are not, to their view "saved Christians" - quite odd to our view, we smiled and nodded often, whilst going on our own way.

Exactly Norah... you would think they would save their energy for non-Christian "others"!

I find it curious.

Spuddy

I'd be voting for her if I was in the USA. She fights for animal rights and women's rights and Indian/Black rights and her hubby is Jewish, even her husband's ex-wife praises her and back her up and she's a brilliant mum to her 2 teenage step-kids!

KAMALA! KAMALA!

And don't forget the bit about her lying through her teeth to the Americans and the rest of the world for the past two or three years saying Joe Biden was as sharp as a tack when everyone who has seen him during that time knew otherwise (his cognitive decline was obvious for all to see). Mind you, it was only the most powerful position any person can hold that Joe was presiding over and she was lying about so perhaps it wasn't that important? Sorry, but not my kind of role model I'm afraid.

NotSpaghetti that is exactly the sort of people we met. They follow the bible closely ( mostly the King James Version) Ignorant they are not! A different way of living and a different outlook on life. In a way closer to the Amish people. Kings and leaders of men are often ‘sinners’ in the Bible. King David with his stolen wife who murdered his wife’s husband, the apostle Paul, most of them in fact. I suppose they see Trump as another in a long line of sinners put there by God to lead ‘his’ people.

Sky news.

news.sky.com/video/say-it-to-my-face-kamala-harris-challenges-donald-trump-at-atlanta-rally-13188035

Kamala is, imo, quite effective.

JN450 - I take it you’re equally critical of those around Trump, who cover up or sanitise his rambling nonsense and racist, Misogynistic beliefs

She hasn't raised $310 million!
That's more than Trump.

Has
Not hasn't.

Interesting perspective from the Financial Times.

www.ft.com/content/f511c4ba-a7a6-4007-b91f-79a08f291d1d

Casdon

Interesting perspective from the Financial Times.

www.ft.com/content/f511c4ba-a7a6-4007-b91f-79a08f291d1d

Paywall on this article .

It’s a weird thing with the Financial Times Syracute, we’ve had it before. I read the article with no paywall, then went back in and there was one. Tried twice more and the second time there was no paywall again. I can’t explain why.

Someone who votes for Trump IS ignorant .
They ignore facts.
I don’t care what church they go to or what bible they read but there is no excuse for Trumps behaviour on January 6 .
New expose on Trump that in 2016 his campaign took illegally 10 million dollars from the Egyptian government .
Let’s see how he dodges that one .

Thank you Casdon I read it (I found no pay wall btw) - and also some of the suggested links.

Syracute I read that about the $$$ too!
In cash!

Kamala has now been formally adopted as Democrat candidate.

I like this article as it has pix and details of the 6 possible vice presidents.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4ng1my55vno

I like Pete Buttigieg - but think he may be a bit "put there" and Mark Kelly is "safer".

"Out-there" not "put-there!

I like Pete Buttigieg best too, on balance. Clearly bright and articulate and able to take on the media. Kelly, well what on offer except "Arizona?"

Beshear may attract the swing/conservative/religious voters better than Buttigieg tho? As long as he is as articulate as Buttigieg.

Wyllow3

I like Pete Buttigieg best too, on balance. Clearly bright and articulate and able to take on the media. Kelly, well what on offer except "Arizona?"

Beshear may attract the swing/conservative/religious voters better than Buttigieg tho? As long as he is as articulate as Buttigieg.

Kelly introduced/supports gun control legislation.

Casdon Thank you ! I was finally able to read the FT article and will read his suggested articles . Excellent !
Kamal is now the official Democratic candidate for President .

Thanks for the information Norah.

tim walz

just now kamala pick for vp