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The New World Power

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Wyllow3 Thu 25-Jul-24 12:44:24

Grantanow

Progress on many world issues, notably climate change, requires joint leadership by the USA and China and probably the EU. If Trump is elected progress will be set back for the duration of his Presidency. Read John Kerry's book 'Every day is extra' for insight into how international negotiations require more than posturing and snake oil.

Agreed, because the democrats will work with Europe - and us.

I do wonder how matters will pan out with Netanyahu's current reign in Israel: the USA wants a strong base there against Iran, how will they feel with China at its front door?

Witzend Thu 25-Jul-24 12:38:51

I well remember my old geography teacher in the 60s saying, ‘China is public enemy number one!’
That was of course in the days of Mao, but IMO she’d be saying it even more vehemently now.

nanna8 Thu 25-Jul-24 12:30:28

China + Russia = Crushya ?

pascal30 Thu 25-Jul-24 11:04:22

Let's hope that Trump isn't elected.. we really are in Climate Crisis if he is.. He, China and Russia what a team...

Grantanow Thu 25-Jul-24 10:01:23

Progress on many world issues, notably climate change, requires joint leadership by the USA and China and probably the EU. If Trump is elected progress will be set back for the duration of his Presidency. Read John Kerry's book 'Every day is extra' for insight into how international negotiations require more than posturing and snake oil.

Namsnanny Wed 24-Jul-24 14:52:15

It has M0nica old news I'm afraid.
Unless there is a new kid on the block to challenge or change the situation that I haven't read about?

M0nica Wed 24-Jul-24 14:06:48

China has been a world power for at least 2 decades, lending huge sums of money to impoverished countriess then imposing their terms and conditions on them, including exploiting their natural resources. to China's advantage and the coutries disadvantage.

maddyone Wed 24-Jul-24 09:56:45

GrannyGravy13

Hamas and Fatah working together?

Hamas should not be anywhere near government in Palestine.

I am suspicious as to what and how much China have offered these warring factions.

Yes GG. That was my first thought.

pascal30 Wed 24-Jul-24 09:53:24

China now owns huge areas or has ruling interests in many other countries now eg Africa, Mongolia, Tibet, the Philipines, Nepal, Japan and Asia... including buying companies in USA and the many buildings it owns in the UK..It owns £134 billion in business interests in the UK

When the Dalai Lama was due to visit Manchester it threatened council leaders if they allowed him to visit.

A truly worrying power.

Grantanow Wed 24-Jul-24 09:30:50

The world is changing and people want to cling on to the past.

nanna8 Wed 24-Jul-24 02:29:31

China supplies Russia with goods over their border. They have long been allies and whilst most of Europe condemns Putin, the Chinese understand him because they are on the same wavelength taking over and moving into other nations. They are a bit more subtle about it.

varian Tue 23-Jul-24 20:47:15

After the fall of the USSR there were three great powers in the world -USA, China and the EU.

Since Brexit, the EU has been weakened and since Putin's success in helping to engineer the Leave vote then helping Trump to be elected in 2016, he has been emboldened to attack Ukraine.

There are now only two major world powers- the USA and China, but the continuing power of the USA is entirely dependent on Trump being defeated in November.

Oreo Tue 23-Jul-24 15:50:47

China shouldn’t have any say in the matter full stop.

Oreo Tue 23-Jul-24 15:49:39

Whitewavemark2

China has been negotiating to form a government in Gaza - this was something that the west and USA would have led.

All eyes are gradually turning eastwards.

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Wyllow3 Tue 23-Jul-24 15:36:40

It is!

Sago Tue 23-Jul-24 14:49:33

Is this the Chinese that persecuted the Uyghurs?

GrannyGravy13 Tue 23-Jul-24 14:32:12

Hamas and Fatah working together?

Hamas should not be anywhere near government in Palestine.

I am suspicious as to what and how much China have offered these warring factions.

nanna8 Tue 23-Jul-24 14:28:31

China is the most powerfully country in the world now, getting more powerful every year. Things will be very different in the future.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 23-Jul-24 14:23:12

China has been negotiating to form a government in Gaza - this was something that the west and USA would have led.

All eyes are gradually turning eastwards.