Manchester Airport Assault

karmalady

The police officer had to act very very fast. He had a gun in one hand and was using his other hand to restrain. All he had left to help were his feet. The one on the floor had one free arm and was very strong. There were at least six men of the other brand getting involved. The officer quite likely saved several people in process. The public should be getting behind him, otherwise you get wimps in the police force

There would have been none of the above if the men had simply followed verbal instructions but no, they wanted a fight with our police and they wanted a video. Mob trouble will follow

What are 'men of the other brand', please?

Just seen this reported Mollygo.
Who knows if it’s correct?

The young man who was kicked and has since developed a cyst on the brain, has a brother who is a police officer in the GMP apparently.

It simply doesn’t matter what happened prior to the excessive violence and summary justice meted out by the suspended. Police officer. So even if we see the entire incident from start to finish, what the GMP officer did was wrong.

Bear in mind that you do not have to suffer from physical harm to prove that the officer used excessive force in arresting you. A cyst on the brain seems more than excessive.

It was reported that there was some trouble on the plane, no idea what, and then it all blew up at the entrance to the carpark. The men were apparently meeting their mother who had flown in from Pakistan. There were other men who had apparently caused some sort of trouble on the plane.

Above that - in the words of Manuel from Faulty Towers, I know nothing.

Urmstongran

Cadeby

Why is the gender of the person with the broken nose of significance?

Erm maybe because men don’t usually deck women?

Erm, people don' t usually kick a prone person in the head.

maddyone

Obviously the police officer should not have kicked the man on the floor. He may have felt the man deserved it, but the police officer shouldn’t have responded in that way. He’s now being disciplined and rightly so.

However we don’t know what led to the police being called in to deal with the incident in the first place. Something was happening if the police were called. Some of the police were armed, airport police I believe. We haven’t been given any facts about what was happening before the police arrived. But something outside of the clip we’ve seen set this off, and we would all do well to remember that.

This 👏👏

Exactly Maddyone.

I've even read conflicting "takes" of the incident just in posts above.

Allsorts 👍🏻

You cant make judgement on that clip. There could well be a reason for it, police try to protect us and have to make split second decisions to protect the public.

The video available is a small sample.

There are eye witnesses saying that the men were videoing all the way from the plane and customs, which is illegal with numerous notices saying no photography.

Funny they haven’t released the footage of the police officers being assaulted…

Obviously the police officer should not have kicked the man on the floor. He may have felt the man deserved it, but the police officer shouldn’t have responded in that way. He’s now being disciplined and rightly so.

However we don’t know what led to the police being called in to deal with the incident in the first place. Something was happening if the police were called. Some of the police were armed, airport police I believe. We haven’t been given any facts about what was happening before the police arrived. But something outside of the clip we’ve seen set this off, and we would all do well to remember that.

Sorry what do you mean by brand?

The police officer had to act very very fast. He had a gun in one hand and was using his other hand to restrain. All he had left to help were his feet. The one on the floor had one free arm and was very strong. There were at least six men of the other brand getting involved. The officer quite likely saved several people in process. The public should be getting behind him, otherwise you get wimps in the police force

There would have been none of the above if the men had simply followed verbal instructions but no, they wanted a fight with our police and they wanted a video. Mob trouble will follow

Summary justice by any police officer is simply not an option for a single police officer in this country.

The man was prone. The officer is trained in exactly what to do in this. The action was excessive.

However, we can I think take comfort that this is a very rare incident.

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No, no, no.
Police officers are trained in control and restraint and not to take out their personal frustrations on people. It really doesn’t matter how they’ve judged what they did.
How would it be if people in care situations retaliated like that when they are in situations of vulnerability.

Whitewavemark2

Cossy

maddyone

I think it completely wrong if the men who caused the problem in the first place, and assaulted three police officers and broke a female police officer’s nose, get away without charges because one policeman, who is already being disciplined, was too eager in his restraint response.

That’s not justice.

I agree

They won’t, and neither should they, however, in carrying out their duties officers should do so within parameters set at their training.

The officer had the man (offender?) on the ground. All he needed to do was to handcuff him for taking him in to charge him.

I would go further and say that behaving as he did, has taken the focus away from the original serious offence.

The truth is Whitewavemark2 that you don't know what happened.. I usually agree with you politically but I don't agree with what you have written here. Much better to wait for the full story IMO

Whitewavemark2

Imo poor training and poor discipline.

What would you have said if one or all of those men had got hold of one of the officers’ guns and proceeded to shoot them?

They were trying to cuff the one on the floor. They were obviously surrounded by a group and they are expected to get things under control quickly.

How easy it is to sit in judgement from the comfort of home.

Cossy

maddyone

I think it completely wrong if the men who caused the problem in the first place, and assaulted three police officers and broke a female police officer’s nose, get away without charges because one policeman, who is already being disciplined, was too eager in his restraint response.

That’s not justice.

I agree

They won’t, and neither should they, however, in carrying out their duties officers should do so within parameters set at their training.

The officer had the man (offender?) on the ground. All he needed to do was to handcuff him for taking him in to charge him.

I would go further and say that behaving as he did, has taken the focus away from the original serious offence.

Cadeby

Why is the gender of the person with the broken nose of significance?

Erm maybe because men don’t usually deck women?

maddyone

I think it completely wrong if the men who caused the problem in the first place, and assaulted three police officers and broke a female police officer’s nose, get away without charges because one policeman, who is already being disciplined, was too eager in his restraint response.

That’s not justice.

I agree

I live in the Greater Manchester area. This airport is ten miles from my home. Rochdale could be a tinderbox tonight if tempers flare. I hope all is calm and if there are protests that they are measured with no hooligans to wind things up. It’s a warm dry night. I actually wish it was raining as that would likely dampen down the numbers of potential protesters.

Why is the gender of the person with the broken nose of significance?

pascal30

I've just listened to Andy Burnham and he was quite restrained as there is obviously a back story here involving a flight.. I don't think the media are helping by interviewing reform people..

Def not!

“Reform UK MP Lee Anderson has been criticised for saying officers involved in an incident where a video appeared to show a police officer kicking and stamping on a man at Manchester Airport should be "commended"”

Don’t be silly.

If I was their inspector and my officers behaved as they did, I would feel concerned at their behaviour which was uncontrolled and excessive.