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Wes Streeting Declares CQC "Not Fit For Purpose"

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mae13 Fri 26-Jul-24 04:26:53

So, the watchdog meant to oversee health services, hospitals and care homes (and guard the users against poor quality treatment and deliberate abuses) is rated as useless by the Health Secretary.

No surprises there then.

In particular, the care home sector is now notorious for slipshod practices. And the CQC?

You may as well complain to a brick wall.......I know from frustrating experience.

Grantanow Wed 31-Jul-24 11:52:29

Casdon

I’m getting fed up of saying this. The 40 hospitals schemes have been postponed, not shelved. There is concern about whether funding had in fact been allocated by the Tory government.

Johnson claimed to be building 40 new hospitals. In fact many were renovations of wings of existing hospitals. There were very few new ones.

ronib Wed 31-Jul-24 10:52:54

growstuff yes funding had been secured for my local hospital. Why on earth does this hospital not get rebuilt after such an incredibly long wait? I don’t understand why the other 39 hospitals need to be considered when this hospital is fully funded. Since you are so knowledgeable please explain.

growstuff Wed 31-Jul-24 10:47:35

ronib

Growstuff oh for pity’s sake- the land has been cleared and foundations going down at my local hospital rebuild - set in place 20 years ago. The rebuild was happening only to be paused again. Who put these clowns in charge?

Don't "for pity's sake" me! I've known land to be cleared and foundations to be built and then have projects stalled for years as a result of funding problems.

Are you claiming that funding was in place for all of the promised 40 hospitals? The projects have been "paused" - maybe to give the accountants a chance to look at the books and see what really is possible and not a figment of Johnson's imagination.

Witzend Wed 31-Jul-24 10:30:30

I was very annoyed with the CQC’s staff at my mother’s care home. She had advanced dementia (all the residents had dementia). My DM was well past being able to participate in, let alone enjoy, any activities - she could not longer even make any sort of conversation or understand/reply to questions.

Yet the CH staff told me apologetically that they’d taken her to some activity she couldn’t possibly benefit from, since the CQC lot were there, and ‘anyone ‘just sitting’ means a black mark.’

This, in a care home specifically for dementia! - and incidentally very good.
I told them that if it ever happened again, they should leave her in peace and refer the CQC staff to me.

It was all too apparent that they were clueless about advanced dementia. And very likely about dementia, full stop.

I should add that the CH did always have plenty of activities for those residents who were still able to enjoy them.

Casdon Wed 31-Jul-24 10:23:46

Okay I’ll take that at face value ronib. You produce conclusive evidence that ‘net zero is taking all the budget’ and I’ll concede. I’m out now for the day, so by the time I get back about 5 would be good. Look forward to seeing it, from a trusted source of course.

ronib Wed 31-Jul-24 10:17:31

Casdon I am the one not speaking Zog.

ronib Wed 31-Jul-24 10:16:12

Growstuff oh for pity’s sake- the land has been cleared and foundations going down at my local hospital rebuild - set in place 20 years ago. The rebuild was happening only to be paused again. Who put these clowns in charge?

Casdon Wed 31-Jul-24 10:12:20

ronib

Casdon likewise. But can’t you answer the question of why net zero is taking all the budget?

Yes, I could immediately dispute that incorrect statement too. However, I’ve recognised that I’m wasting my breath. I don’t speak Zog.

growstuff Wed 31-Jul-24 10:09:28

ronib

*Casdon*Well Labour wouldn’t say that would it? This hospital rebuilding program has been kicking around for years and years. How can Labour pause it ? It’s so badly needed. Hospital rebuilding should take priority over net zero imo.

I'm not sure how you can pause something which isn't happening.

maddyone Wed 31-Jul-24 10:07:09

For pausing read kicked down the road.

ronib Wed 31-Jul-24 10:01:48

Casdon likewise. But can’t you answer the question of why net zero is taking all the budget?

Casdon Wed 31-Jul-24 10:00:27

I’m glad I don’t live on the same planet as you ronib.

ronib Wed 31-Jul-24 09:58:17

CasdonWell Labour wouldn’t say that would it? This hospital rebuilding program has been kicking around for years and years. How can Labour pause it ? It’s so badly needed. Hospital rebuilding should take priority over net zero imo.

Casdon Wed 31-Jul-24 09:53:26

I have read the manifesto ronib, but if you have, you’ve read something into it that isn’t there. Nowhere does it say that there will be no building programme to upgrade and replace general hospitals.

ronib Wed 31-Jul-24 09:50:31

You have read the manifesto Casdon? It makes perfect sense to stop building hospitals if smaller more local medical centres are the preferred model. Well Labour’s preferred model.

Casdon Wed 31-Jul-24 09:41:37

I’m getting fed up of saying this. The 40 hospitals schemes have been postponed, not shelved. There is concern about whether funding had in fact been allocated by the Tory government.

ronib Wed 31-Jul-24 09:36:37

Wes Streeting is also not building hospitals but rather a different type of local facility if the Labour manifesto is to be believed. Change is ahead.

NotSpaghetti Wed 31-Jul-24 09:34:47

The Health Ombudsman made significant staffing cuts last March (I think March) too.

Grantanow Wed 31-Jul-24 09:30:37

Now that Labour has deferred Dilnot's social care cap I'm beginning to think Wes Streeting is not fit for purpose.

M0nica Fri 26-Jul-24 20:48:46

It is the problem with the whole tick box, count it, measure it, target setting attitude.

Some years ago I had to use an International standard for quality control for amrket reaearch reports I commissioned. A report could provide the quality form with every box ticked for the processes that were gone through to commission the report, write the questionnaires, select the sample, etc etc. What they could not do is ensure that the actual creative work; the questionnaires themselves and the analysis and final report were any good. Onoy that the obeyed and carefully followed the rules for the process - and the final paperwork file of everything was impeccable.

petra Fri 26-Jul-24 17:49:49

Winterwhite
I lived opposite a family who owned care homes.
In about 2012 my son in law sold 3 cars to the family, cost for the 3 cars £360,000.
It maybe would have been ok if the residents had been living in lovely surroundings and conditions but the truth was, they weren’t.
In fact I reported them.

Labradora Fri 26-Jul-24 17:37:11

Bottom Line (NET profits after taxation)profits of these companies should be available via accounts filed at Companies House.
I don't know if a summary of the main operators net profits is available anywhere on the internet ?
Probably........

Poppyred Fri 26-Jul-24 16:32:11

My Mum’s care home closed down a while after she died. I bumped into one of the nurses that used to work there and was told that the exorbitant cost of agency nurses made the home bankrupt.

dalrymple23 Fri 26-Jul-24 16:18:34

I could have told Mr Streeting about CQC, without him having to waste thousands of pounds on an expert evaluation. Their visits to establishments are purely a tick box exercise. I used to work for a care agency. It received a rating of "poor" because their filing system did not meet their standards. The quality of care provided by the dedicated carers was not examined.

Three carers were invited to be interviewed (not long standing employees but just those who happened to be in the office at the time!). When any issue was raised by a carer, the CQC rep did not want to know, as it did not fit into the box. Absolutely useless but and the BIG BUT is that people look at the CQC ratings for guidance. Their rating can make or break a company/business.

It needs to be binned and restarted from scratch and at least run by people who have experience and by people who know what they are doing and talking about.

LizzieDrip Fri 26-Jul-24 15:57:44

Precisely Casdon