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Rachel Reeves has announced that winter fuel payments will only be paid to those on Pension Credit.nsion Credit

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M0nica Mon 29-Jul-24 15:57:00

We will lose the benefit and that is fine by us. I think older people, especially those like us who are comfortably off, should be expected to make a contribution to sorting out the country's economic situation.

Doodledog Fri 02-Aug-24 16:54:37

I agree that it was a bad move, but I don’t see how pensioners are being exploited by it.

Nicky7of7 Fri 02-Aug-24 15:49:48

I have just read that Unite the Union is meeting with the government over the loss of the WFS and are strongly against this exploitation of pensioners . They are starting a campaign to have this decision repealed. Watch this space!

Callistemon213 Fri 02-Aug-24 09:04:13

Casdon

Callistemon213

MaizieD

Callistemon213

So what should they do - where should they get the money from to fill the black holes?

Where's MaizieD?

In a hospital bed, having had a hip replacement op this morning 😆

But you know very well what I'd say about that 'black hole', don't you...

Hope you're soon mobile again, MaizieD.

I can sympathise (mine's a new knee!).

Glad to hear you’ve had your knee done at last Callistemon213, hope your recovery goes well too.

Thank you!

I'm not a spring chicken or doing Scottish reels yet, but 🤞

Casdon Fri 02-Aug-24 08:32:42

Callistemon213

MaizieD

Callistemon213

So what should they do - where should they get the money from to fill the black holes?

Where's MaizieD?

In a hospital bed, having had a hip replacement op this morning 😆

But you know very well what I'd say about that 'black hole', don't you...

Hope you're soon mobile again, MaizieD.

I can sympathise (mine's a new knee!).

Glad to hear you’ve had your knee done at last Callistemon213, hope your recovery goes well too.

AGAA4 Fri 02-Aug-24 08:25:32

Hope to see MaisieD back soon with her sensible and informative posts.

AGAA4 Fri 02-Aug-24 08:23:37

Rachel Reeves may have shot herself in the foot when all those pensioners who can but don't claim pension credit start to claim. There was a slight upsurge of claims when the free TV licence was scrapped.
If all those who are entitled now claim then get the WFA the expected income from taking WFA from those not on pension credit will be reduced.

Callistemon213 Thu 01-Aug-24 22:41:39

MaizieD

Callistemon213

So what should they do - where should they get the money from to fill the black holes?

Where's MaizieD?

In a hospital bed, having had a hip replacement op this morning 😆

But you know very well what I'd say about that 'black hole', don't you...

Hope you're soon mobile again, MaizieD.

I can sympathise (mine's a new knee!).

Cossy Thu 01-Aug-24 21:02:27

MaizieD

Thanks, folks. I'm really looking forward to the dancing 😂

Sending you good wishes flowers

Casdon Thu 01-Aug-24 18:19:27

All the best MaizieD, hope you have a speedy recovery.

ronib Thu 01-Aug-24 18:02:49

Exercise is key MaizieD …. Take care

GrannyGravy13 Thu 01-Aug-24 17:47:48

Hope you are up and dancing soon MaizieD 💃

maddyone Thu 01-Aug-24 17:46:00

Get well quickly Maizie flowers

Norah Thu 01-Aug-24 17:14:35

MaizieD

Callistemon213

So what should they do - where should they get the money from to fill the black holes?

Where's MaizieD?

In a hospital bed, having had a hip replacement op this morning 😆

But you know very well what I'd say about that 'black hole', don't you...

flowers Mend well flowers

Whitewavemark2 Thu 01-Aug-24 17:13:27

MaizieD

Callistemon213

So what should they do - where should they get the money from to fill the black holes?

Where's MaizieD?

In a hospital bed, having had a hip replacement op this morning 😆

But you know very well what I'd say about that 'black hole', don't you...

There is a Labour supporter who will criticise labour policies, as we all should if we feel the need.

Blind faith is not something most labour supporters have.

MaizieD Thu 01-Aug-24 17:13:25

Thanks, folks. I'm really looking forward to the dancing 😂

Oreo Thu 01-Aug-24 17:11:18

Hello MaizieD👋 wondered where you were😃Get well soon.
You’ll be dancing around in no time.

Doodledog Thu 01-Aug-24 17:10:09

Get well soon, Maisie. I hope the op went well.

MaizieD Thu 01-Aug-24 17:02:53

Callistemon213

^So what should they do - where should they get the money from to fill the black holes?^

Where's MaizieD?

In a hospital bed, having had a hip replacement op this morning 😆

But you know very well what I'd say about that 'black hole', don't you...

Freya5 Thu 01-Aug-24 16:53:31

Gznm

It infuriated me when they replied to some-one ,questioning why they are offering 22% pay rise to doctors and taking the fuel allowance off pensoners, “Pensioners will benefit from the doctors increase in wages ,because pensioners are the ones who use the services of the nhs most.

Yes, increases in hypothermia, and malnutrition. Much harder for the elderly to get over. Again they have paid into the NHS all their lives, many from its conception as many in that era started work at 15, myself included. . Yet Labour are making them pay even more. Shame on them.

Norah Thu 01-Aug-24 16:38:38

Doodledog

Norah

Oreo

Doodledog there may be a few posters as you describe but the vast majority here are shocked that a Labour government are doing this.I think and hope that this government will put some really good policies in place but this one, WFA cut is a very bad move.

Of course the WFA cut is a bad move. Unfair to those who need/counted on it.

Better, imo, would be raising the current tax thresholds, adding a 50% rate - and ring fencing the money raised for worthwhile benefits.

I would be very happy with that.

I wonder why those in HMTreasury aren't able to find ways to tax, pay bills, pay for all needs - we all do that personally, why can't they?

Doodledog Thu 01-Aug-24 16:32:52

Norah

Oreo

Doodledog there may be a few posters as you describe but the vast majority here are shocked that a Labour government are doing this.I think and hope that this government will put some really good policies in place but this one, WFA cut is a very bad move.

Of course the WFA cut is a bad move. Unfair to those who need/counted on it.

Better, imo, would be raising the current tax thresholds, adding a 50% rate - and ring fencing the money raised for worthwhile benefits.

I would be very happy with that.

Norah Thu 01-Aug-24 15:24:02

Oreo

Doodledog there may be a few posters as you describe but the vast majority here are shocked that a Labour government are doing this.I think and hope that this government will put some really good policies in place but this one, WFA cut is a very bad move.

Of course the WFA cut is a bad move. Unfair to those who need/counted on it.

Better, imo, would be raising the current tax thresholds, adding a 50% rate - and ring fencing the money raised for worthwhile benefits.

MayBee70 Thu 01-Aug-24 15:21:42

Imo there needs to be an all out advertising campaign to make sure that everyone entitled to pension credit gets it because so many people don’t. And make it easy for them to apply. I’ll be very disappointed if that doesn’t happen and have mentioned it to my MP. I doubt if the government will back track on it in any way. As for Labour supporters not criticising our party we’re renowned for criticising them because we’re such a broad church. But I’m going to wait till we see what’s in the budget. We all knew we would have to pull together to get the country back on track.

Gznm Thu 01-Aug-24 15:20:38

It infuriated me when they replied to some-one ,questioning why they are offering 22% pay rise to doctors and taking the fuel allowance off pensoners, “Pensioners will benefit from the doctors increase in wages ,because pensioners are the ones who use the services of the nhs most.

Callistemon213 Thu 01-Aug-24 14:56:45

Wyllow3

I think the best option is to demand a raising in the level where the benefit gets stopped. We need the money raised for other pensioner concerns in health and welfare.

Yes, I agree.

A tapering of the allowance so that a sudden cut-off point would be better but perhaps not efficient cost-wise.