Rachel Reeves has announced that winter fuel payments will only be paid to those on Pension Credit.nsion Credit

Also in my post:

That has now been stopped of course.

J52

maddyone

I find it interesting that MPs receive a winter heating allowance. Why? Oh yes, that would be to heat the second home bought and paid for by the tax payer. I don’t know the amount but it was mooted upthread that it is in the region of £3000+. It’s interesting that Reeves left that in place.

MPs do not claim tax payers money for buying the second Parliamentary home.

‘The second-home allowance will be scrapped, meaning MPs will only be allowed to claim for rented properties. There will be a two-year transition period, after which Ipsa will claw back any capital gains on properties during that period. MPs will be expected to rent only one-bedroom flats up to the cost of £1,450 a month.’ The Guardian March 2010 from the IPS report into MPs expenses.
May I respectfully suggest that the report is read.
I’m reminded of the WW11 saying ‘ idle talk costs lives’

That was made perfectly clear in my post.

Although I do now notice a typo, should have typed 2010, not 20010.
Perhaps that was misleading, sorry.

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Hypocrites.

We all knew taxes had to rise despite the pre election denial.
The WFP was a bit of a shock , very unfair to so many.

One thing I'm sure will also get cancelled is free Prescriptions when you hit 60.
If you have to wait for your SP until 67, the assumption is your working?
So I reckon that will be her easy target next?

maddyone

I find it interesting that MPs receive a winter heating allowance. Why? Oh yes, that would be to heat the second home bought and paid for by the tax payer. I don’t know the amount but it was mooted upthread that it is in the region of £3000+. It’s interesting that Reeves left that in place.

MPs do not claim tax payers money for buying the second Parliamentary home.

‘The second-home allowance will be scrapped, meaning MPs will only be allowed to claim for rented properties. There will be a two-year transition period, after which Ipsa will claw back any capital gains on properties during that period. MPs will be expected to rent only one-bedroom flats up to the cost of £1,450 a month.’ The Guardian March 2010 from the IPS report into MPs expenses.
May I respectfully suggest that the report is read.
I’m reminded of the WW11 saying ‘ idle talk costs lives’

MissAdventure

Everything will have a cut off point.
What's the answer to that, though?
If its changed, different people will have the same problem.

Yes true

maddyone

Callistemon213

So what should they do - where should they get the money from to fill the black holes?

Where's MaizieD?

I wish they’d find the money to fill the pot holes, never mind the black holes.

😂😂😂

We have been ou on a couple of roads recently which have been resurfaced 😮
It is something of wonder and a joy to drive on for the few short miles out of the thousands of miles of broken up surfaces, potholes and badly patched areas where drains are left a foot lower than the road surface.

I am signing every petition I can find in support of reinstating the WFA for pensioners on lower incomes.

Callistemon213

^So what should they do - where should they get the money from to fill the black holes?^

Where's MaizieD?

I wish they’d find the money to fill the pot holes, never mind the black holes.

Hogg seems rather a fitting name...

We should do what Denmark do and provide accommodation for MPs to stay in when they are in London. We should not be paying for second homes for MPs that they can keep when they leave parliament. No wonder they’re keen on house prices rising, just think of the profit made when they sell the second homes that we paid for.

Oh well moat cleaning and duck islands not on my to do lists..,

So what should they do - where should they get the money from to fill the black holes?

Where's MaizieD?

Moat ...

ronib

Douglas Hogg aka Viscount Hailsham. Although he did not seek re-election to the Commons …..

'Humiliated' Tory MP Peter Viggers quits over duck island expense claim

Not Douglas Hogg - he claimed expenses for having his most cleaned.
As you do! 🏰

They'd be revised very quickly if I was pm.

The rules are extremely generous.
They would be wouldn’t they? They set them!

Mt61

My friend was £1& tuppence over to receive Pc.. another that sits under blankets-OTOH my now dead MIL was in receipt of PC, never been as well off. Free rent, free council tax, free dentist/ glasses, free tv licence at the time, free care, she used to wind me up & say she was going ring DWP & tell them she didn’t want it 😩

Never presume that pensioners who don’t receive PC, that they are loaded, I know lots of my parents friends who struggle to live & can’t get PC- getting Pc put you forward for other freebies!

Cutting those expenses seems a very reasonable way to save money.

Dianehillbilly1957

Less than a month has passed since coming to power and this is their scant regard for the working class they should be looking after! SO just because we paid extra into the pension pot, and still paying for dentist, optician and other things we're penalised. Much longer and colder winters in the far north of Scotland and paying higher than the rest of the UK for our electric we're in for a cracking winter! Yet there is money for the rest of the world and illegal entry in to UK , charity begins at home. Disgusting nasty government!

Less than a month has passed since coming to power and this is their scant regard for the working class they should be looking after!

The Labour party got into power precisely because they are not the party of the working class.

If they had campaigned, as Corbyn did, for-the-many-not-the-few, they wouldn't have stood a cat in hell's chance.

The modern Labour party is centrist - left of centre - but it is not now representative of the impoverished or the working class. The conditions that created the Labour party no longer exist. Those days of the exploited factory worker and the greedy factory owner are long gone.

Labour now run with both hare and hounds. They are an alternative to the Tory party. Albeit one that wants a more equitable society.

Corbyn wanted to "look after" the working class - and look where that got him. He was pilloried by the very people he wanted to help who insisted he would ruin the economy!

If you want a party that looks out for the working class - you should have voted for Corbyn! I doubt he would have removed the WFA.

I don't know what you think Labour can do. If they go after the wealthy, we are told they will up sticks and leave and take their businesses elsewhere.

So what should they do - where should they get the money from to fill the black holes?

maddyone

MissAdventure

Mps have always claimed expenses.

They have indeed.
Remember the duck house?

Yes, and the second home flipping, so in effect we paid both mortgages for MPs.
More than 50 MPs "flipped" their second home allowance last year from one property to another, according to new figures about parliamentary expenses released by the Commons authorities this morning.
Guardian 2009

A total of 232 MPs have changed the address of the property that they have designated as their second home in the last five years - equal to more than one third of all MPs.

Those involved include Prime Minister Gordon Brown and ten Cabinet ministers, among them Ed Balls Yvette Cooper, Andy Burnham, and Alistair Darling, who changed his twice. Seven members of the Shadow Cabinet also switched the address of their second home, including William Hague and schools spokesman Michael Gove.
Daily Mail 20010

That has now been stopped of course.

Keir Starmer, Director of Public Prosecutions for England and Wales announced on 5 February 2010 that three Labour MPs, Elliot Morley, David Chaytor and Jim Devine, and Conservative peer Lord Hanningfield would face criminal charges of false accounting in relation to their expense claims.

Sir Keir Starmer will not approve of MPs breaking any rules re expenses but the rules seem quite generous.

Everything will have a cut off point.
What's the answer to that, though?
If its changed, different people will have the same problem.

My friend was £1& tuppence over to receive Pc.. another that sits under blankets-OTOH my now dead MIL was in receipt of PC, never been as well off. Free rent, free council tax, free dentist/ glasses, free tv licence at the time, free care, she used to wind me up & say she was going ring DWP & tell them she didn’t want it 😩

dragonfly46

I am sure there is more to come. Pensioners are the group with the least clout, we have no voice. They did say they are not going to tax workers so which group is left?
I am sad that the Bank of England will not now reduce interest rates because of Rachel Reeves which will affect my son's mortgage which is up for renewal in September.

Probably hasn’t affected your sons mortgage as much as Truss’s budget, though?

Douglas Hogg aka Viscount Hailsham. Although he did not seek re-election to the Commons …..