Huw Edwards arrives at court this morning

I thought Huw Edwards looked quite defiant, when walking into court. He looked directly into the cameras. Shameless, I thought

Yes Iam. My brother as a solicitor was on the childcare panel for several years. He came off when it when he couldn't deal with it anymore.

Yes, I'm sure it must be. It must be really difficult to listen to that all day.

It’s been suggested on gransnet previously that people who work in safeguarding ‘see it everywhere’ and over exaggerate. Very naive and in truth offensive

Iam64

Doodledog - the support/therapy for men who want help not to act on their sexual attraction t0 children is from experienced psychologists or ‘experts’ like Ray Wyre, or specialist NCPCC practitioners. It’s confidential. As with any other contract agreed before therapy , confidentiality is agreed unless it becomes clear there are safeguarding issues. Therapists are told of horrifying fantasies. Their risk management is impressive but I’ve never heard of an offender or msn seeking help about who a ‘no risk’ conclusion could be reached.

God, what an awful job that must be. You'd want to bleach your brain every night.

Yes, I think his appointment is a good one too. Would be interested to hear his views on this particular case.

Patsy70 - James Timpson’s parents were long standing, well respected, foster carers so highly likely to have direct knowledge of the often devastating impact on children
Their companies have always aimed to employ ex offenders but they refuse to employ sex offenders.
James Timpson is imo a great appointment. Im hoping he takes a theoretical approach to punishment of sex offendersb

Doodledog - the support/therapy for men who want help not to act on their sexual attraction t0 children is from experienced psychologists or ‘experts’ like Ray Wyre, or specialist NCPCC practitioners. It’s confidential. As with any other contract agreed before therapy , confidentiality is agreed unless it becomes clear there are safeguarding issues. Therapists are told of horrifying fantasies. Their risk management is impressive but I’ve never heard of an offender or msn seeking help about who a ‘no risk’ conclusion could be reached.

Urmstongran

Explaining in the Telegraph:

“What are category A, B and C images?
Category A is the most severe type of child abuse image. These images involve penetrative sexual activity, sexual activity with an animal, or sadism.

Possession of category A images generally carries a tariff of between 26 weeks and three years in custody, according to sentencing council guidelines.

Category B images are deemed as “moderately” severe. They include images showing a child or children being subjected to non-penetrative sexual activity.

Someone found guilty of possessing category B images could expect anything from a high-level community order to 18 months in custody.

Finally, category C includes images of children in erotic poses. Sentencing for possession of category C images can range from a medium level community order to 26 weeks in custody.

Guidelines allow discretion for judges to take into account factors including no previous convictions, showing remorse, positive character, mental disorder or serious medical condition.

Since last year, judges are also expected to take into account prison overcrowding when deciding whether to jail a defendant.”

Thank you Urmstongran. I find this quite shocking! I’m wondering what the new Labour Minister of State for Prisons, James Timpson, would advise.

I was thinking about this case today, and others like it where people are viewing child pornography online, awful to view it but even worse to think it happened and is still happening to children here in the UK and elsewhere.What are the poor things lives like?Those that should be protecting them abusing them.Just shocking and depressing.

Iam64

Help for people, most often men, who are sexually attracted to children is available and has been for years. It’s accessed via a GP. Mental health or children’s services social workers can help by making referrals

As Annie says, getting alcoholics/substance abusers to engage with therapy is difficult and that’s something many people understand on some levels

The research into outcomes following group therapy isn’t promising. My limited knowledge of individual treatment for men who have sexually abused children isn’t reassuring

I fear any attempt to reduce the social stigma can only result in more children at risk

I wouldn't want to reduce the social stigma of being an abuser, but if someone faces up to the fact that he is so inclined, and takes steps to remedy that (if such a thing is possible, which is way beyond my understanding) then doing so can only be encouraged if there is no or low risk of being 'outed' attached. Otherwise, people are likely to try to control their urges themselves, and may or may not succeed.

Quote Freya5 Thu 01-Aug-24 16:41:09
Anniebach
The BBC should have sacked Huw Edwards immediately?
What without proof. It is still innocent until proven guilty in this country. Well unless you listen to the armchair judges on social media then they'd hang everyone on suspicion.

I asked a question of those who said the BBC should have sacked him

Anniebach

The BBC should have sacked Huw Edwards immediately?

What without proof. It is still innocent until proven guilty in this country. Well unless you listen to the armchair judges on social media then they'd hang everyone on suspicion.

I think there is probably a whole story about his marriage which apparently split up some years ago, and more recently when his wife exposed him.. she says she was doing that to protect her 5 grown up children.. Understandable but I wonder just how much she knew and for how long...

I said he is losing his hair

Who said he is losing his hair?

Perhaps his haircut was to bring his image ‘up to date?’

Not making any excuses for his behaviour, but both men and women in the public eye try and change their hairstyle, fashion choices to keep being ‘on trend’. All these up and coming youngsters must make them appear very old fashioned and out of touch, not least to themselves.

Are all men who are losing their hair weird ?

It wasn't just the haircut. He's perfectly entitled to do what he likes with his hair. Something about his whole appearance changed. Once again, his business. He has to expect comments as a celebrity.

To be honest Kate1949 I too raised an eyebrow at his ‘edgy’ new haircut.

Well as I said, I've always found him weird and when his appearance changed I found him more weird. I don't know why but I did.

bmacca refers to Ray Wyte and Lucy Faithful foundation. I agree good work. Several staff from north west NSPCC also did good assessments and treatment work, with families, alongside local authority social workers
It’s difficult work for everyone. Police officers have to view photographs and videos. Those working in this area need good personal boundaries and supervision

some really interesting posts Iam64, Dickens

HousePlantQueen

Tuaim

About 2 years ago I was watching Huw Edwards reading the news. He had a particularly modern hair cut for a man of his age and standing and something quite strange went through my mind 'That's weird' but I put it to the back of my mind and thought 'Oh well, he is trying to be out there with the younger generation'. Perhaps our inner instincts do flag up base gut feelings and we ignore them because we think they are nonsense.

That really is a silly comment. Are you suggesting that the "younger generation" are likely to be sexually attracted to a late middle aged, outwardly respectable man just because he has had his hair cut? Should we be on our guard for any other tv personalities who have had a haircut?

Sorry, but this comment, in a thread about a distressing subject is drivel.

Especially as one of the the "young people" involved is a small child.

Tuaim

About 2 years ago I was watching Huw Edwards reading the news. He had a particularly modern hair cut for a man of his age and standing and something quite strange went through my mind 'That's weird' but I put it to the back of my mind and thought 'Oh well, he is trying to be out there with the younger generation'. Perhaps our inner instincts do flag up base gut feelings and we ignore them because we think they are nonsense.

That really is a silly comment. Are you suggesting that the "younger generation" are likely to be sexually attracted to a late middle aged, outwardly respectable man just because he has had his hair cut? Should we be on our guard for any other tv personalities who have had a haircut?

Sorry, but this comment, in a thread about a distressing subject is drivel.