GENUINE QUESTION : HARRY AND MEGHAN

Anniebach

Why are they going there ? her DNA ?

Maybe there was a misspelling in the invitation and she thinks they’re going to offer her a film part!

Anniebach

Why are they going there ? her DNA ?

to stock up maybe

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I am very happy to admit what I do not know, discussions are places to learn things are they not?

Rosie there is a question mark there

This means it is a question and not a statement of fact

And just like the royal family, I do not have to comment on any public figure in a positive or negative way. It is not a requirement

VioletSky
I didn't claim anything about that, I said it isn't all publicly funded which is correct and simply did not know they couldn't fund armed guards from the same source with the royal family purse as well as the public purse

At 15:56:38 you said So he is willing to pay for UK armed protection?

Don't the royal family do that anyway? Not all their protection is publicly funded

Please provide details of the armed protection the RF receive that is not publicly funded. As far as I'm aware all armed protection has to be publicly funded, you obviously know more than me.

As an aside, you can claim not to hate JKR but it shows every time you refer to her, you've never given any praise or recognition of all the good things she does.

I guess it is harder when people are defending themselves rather than their opinions

How is jam selling going ? It was suppose to be a success

If I had children and I were getting death threats, I have to say, shutting up would come easily to me

Opinions are like (noses) we all have one

It's just all a bit boring now but for those involved and publicly trashed it must still feel raw.

I doubt they'll be wanting to share their protection officers any time soon.

I feel sorry for H & M their allure has faded in the US and doesn’t seem there is now much mileage left in their particular brand which consists mainly of complaining about the royal family.
As one of their famous friends said a while ago ‘there is a time to talk but there is also a time to shut the f**k up’.
Excuse the language.

I don't hate her or anyone else

I am not really the type to spread hate speech online about anyone

I didn't claim anything about that, I said it isn't all publicly funded which is correct and simply did not know they couldn't fund armed guards from the same source with the royal family purse as well as the public purse

Meghan has no intentions of ever coming back as she knows she won’t be warmly received. It’s not all her fault. Harry created this monster!
Such a misogynistic comment ! Shame on you !

I take it you’ve read Callistemon’s post by now and learned the difference between misogyny and misandry.

You should have checked that out before ‘casting shame’ on me which is a little dramatic don’t you think?

If Harry and Megan can't have private armed security surely it would simply make sense that when they visit they accompany family who do have armed security

I can't think of anyone offhand. 🤔

It's so obvious you hate JKR VioletSky, she does not vilify transpeople, she merely states, quite correctly, that nobody can change their sex. I notice you couldn't bring yourself to say in your opinion she also should be able to hire private armed security. I think most people who aren't TRAs know JKR for her books, both the children's ones and the adult ones, and for giving vast amounts of money to children's and other charities. She also set up at her own expense a rape crisis centre in Edinburgh which guarantees to be staffed by biological women, where women can feel completely safe.

Are you retracting your claim that the Royal family pay privately for armed security?

If Harry and Megan can't have private armed security surely it would simply make sense that when they visit they accompany family who do have armed security well of course that option has been open to them, the same as for all the other non working royal family members.

J K Rowling seems to be making her entire career solely about vilifying trans people but no one should receive death threats even if that is what they seem to want to be remembered for in life rather than writing children's books

If Harry and Megan can't have private armed security surely it would simply make sense that when they visit they accompany family who do have armed security

Otherwise they will have to stay elsewhere which they are sensibly doing given the threats against their safety being serious enough to mean prison sentences for some doing it

VioletSky

So he is willing to pay for UK armed protection?

Don't the royal family do that anyway? Not all their protection is publicly funded

He may be willing but it is not allowed for anybody to pay for armed security.

VioletSky
Rosie51 surely the question should be, if any person recieving death threats cannot hire armed security, the royal family can't either?

They don't hire privately funded armed security! Working members of the Royal Family receive state funded armed protection. None of them pay or are allowed to pay for private armed protection. The non working members of the Royal family, Beatrice, Eugenie, Zara, Peter and others receive no armed protection. When at a Royal gathering or function they will benefit from the protection being afforded to the working Royals present, as would H & M in similar circumstances.

If you can show that I'm wrong about this I'd be glad to read your sources. Do you think J K Rowling should (regardless that she can't because it would be illegal) be able to have privately funded armed protection? She is vilified and receives the most abominable threats just because she knows you can't change biological sex.

Rosie51 surely the question should be, if any person recieving death threats cannot hire armed security, the royal family can't either?

Harry and Megan and their children are still members of the royal family

So he is willing to pay for UK armed protection?

Don't the royal family do that anyway? Not all their protection is publicly funded

Rosie51

vegansrock

H and M have been subject to an avalanche of online and real life abuse- anyone who doesn’t believe this should give their heads a wobble, whether they deserve it or not is a matter of opinion. Rape , violence and death threats among them. Anyone remember the vile Piers Morgan comments- that was mild to some of the stuff you can see online.

Are you aware of the thousands of similar threats made to J K Rowling because she acknowledges the reality of immutable sex? Should she also be able to have armed security when she's out and about?

vegansrock Do you have any thought about others who have received an avalanche of online and real life abuse being able to pay for armed security, or are M&H your only concern?

So he wants the law changed

vegansrock

But he isn’t allowed his own armed protection whilst in the Uk - he did offer to pay for it.

It's against the law here.

Do guns have a nationality?

Allow American firearms into our country !

Some of the public quite like them