False information and incitement on SM and prosecuting the perpetrators

Apologies, *nastiness.

It's well known that social media can be an echo chamber and you often don't get a sensible opposing viewpoint because of algorithms. Perhaps, Oreo, this is the reason you think other sites are worse?

Too many to mention😄
‘Nastyness’ is subjective and isn’t racism.

Oreo I wonder where else you go on social media?
I think Gransnet has tipped into nastyness

I have no idea which threads or why Maybee70 so unless you say they were full of racist posts and that’s the reason they were pulled then I can’t answer that.I guess I could ask them why.
It could be that there were constant spats or the subject shouldn’t have been talked about.
All I can say is that in the few years on here this forum is a pussycat on all matters compared to others.

Well, for a start there have been two threads taken down by HQ recently because they are obviously concerned about the content of them.

There is a lot of judgement on what some see as racism but isn't. Telling you what they think and like to judge and divide.

Cossy

Oreo

growstuff
If you had no concerns around using the tube or London transport around the time of the Islamist extremist bombings then you weren’t there.Everybody was extremely nervous I can tell you.

Are you suggesting she’s lying?

I travelled to work every single day in the 80’s, in the height of the IRA bombings. It was a bit scary, but life goes on.

I simply don’t believe everyone travelling was extremely nervous. You cannot speak for others, just yourself.

I live near enough to Tavistock Square to have heard the bomb explode on the bus on 7 July 2005. The next day I joined other commuters on the tube to get to work and back. I have no idea if other travellers were nervous but they didn't appear to be, and there was even a feeling of normality to be back on the tube. However awful events are, life goes on.

Casdon

We all know what we think, but we are also all just one opinion, and none of us is always right. A lot of othering goes on on Gransnet, and there are also a lot of posts that are very close to the racism/xenophobia line - in my opinion. I’m not sure a lot of people are aware when they are on that line, but some definitely are.

What kind of othering? Who is othered? Genuine question as I’ve been on this site for two years and never seen any.
So there aren’t any real racist posts, just ones that in your opinion are very close.What I thought otherwise the deletions would be massive and they just aren’t.
Not sure why a few posters are so keen to paint Gransnet as a racist site when it isn’t.

Oreo

growstuff I always try to put my point of view over, usually made from experience, but I don’t go in for extended spats so don’t expect me to reply to your every post on this subject.

I don't and have no idea why you think that.

We all know what we think, but we are also all just one opinion, and none of us is always right. A lot of othering goes on on Gransnet, and there are also a lot of posts that are very close to the racism/xenophobia line - in my opinion. I’m not sure a lot of people are aware when they are on that line, but some definitely are.

growstuff I always try to put my point of view over, usually made from experience, but I don’t go in for extended spats so don’t expect me to reply to your every post on this subject.

I know what I think and have eyes so can see that this forum is the least racist than any I’ve come across on SM ever.
Where are all these supposedly racist posts? If it was really the case they would be deleted pdq all the time and every day.
Most of the deleted posts I see are to do with personal attacks.
If you don’t report racist posts, genuine ones not ones that a poster just doesn’t happen to like, then that’s very poor.
Genuine racist posts should always be reported.

I also agree - and have said before - that there are racist posts on here. Some, I think, when I feel charitable, stem from a lack of awareness (around appropriate language, about how people of colour experience racism and so on) but some are so blatant, the writers must know how what they are saying.

I’ve only looked at three threads today, and could already signpost to one of the latter.

It isn’t new. I’ve had previous usernames and deleted the accounts over, for example, the unedifying spectacle of white people telling people of colour they have no right to say they find words or phrases racist.

I never report posts (as I’ve also said before) and I no longer seriously engage with immigration/asylum threads. Increasingly, though, I feel that by doing neither of those, I am colluding in the racism and xenophobia here.

Cossy

Oreo

growstuff
If you had no concerns around using the tube or London transport around the time of the Islamist extremist bombings then you weren’t there.Everybody was extremely nervous I can tell you.

Are you suggesting she’s lying?

I travelled to work every single day in the 80’s, in the height of the IRA bombings. It was a bit scary, but life goes on.

I simply don’t believe everyone travelling was extremely nervous. You cannot speak for others, just yourself.

It would appear that's the suggestion.. Sigh!

Oreo

growstuff
If you had no concerns around using the tube or London transport around the time of the Islamist extremist bombings then you weren’t there.Everybody was extremely nervous I can tell you.

Are you suggesting she’s lying?

I travelled to work every single day in the 80’s, in the height of the IRA bombings. It was a bit scary, but life goes on.

I simply don’t believe everyone travelling was extremely nervous. You cannot speak for others, just yourself.

Grandmabatty

Of course you would disagree Oreo. And yes, I see casual racism every day on threads here. It almost made me leave the site.
None so blind as those that will not see

I’m afraid I agree, lots of throwaway comments and veiled hints on here almost everyday that I would consider racist.

fancythat

^He can call himself what he likes but if he isn’t religious and not a practising Muslim then he isn’t actually Muslim^

A good point.

It's a cultural and historical identity as well as whether a Mosque attender, or secular.

People attacking Muslims don't stop to ask, "are you secular' before attacking or bullying.

fancythat

^He can call himself what he likes but if he isn’t religious and not a practising Muslim then he isn’t actually Muslim^

A good point.

I really do wonder what gives anybody the right to claim they know how other people should identify.

Oreo

Why ‘of course’ ?
This site is the least racist of possibly any in the world! It shows that many of you don’t know what’s out there.
It also shows that you seem to think racism is only the preserve of white people.It further shows that many live in lovely leafy areas and aren’t in touch with what goes on in the ‘mean streets’ of the UK.
Most people aren’t racists and live and let live but there are those who live on the fringes of society, usually young who have just about nothing, have had an awful start in life and these are the ones sucked into rioting that need thinking about.
We really are a broken society and I think it’s going to take real ambition on the part of the new government to fix it.It will take years and years but should begin right now.

I know very well what's "out there". Nowhere have I claimed that GN is more racist than any other site. Nevertheless, there have been casual (and not so casual) racist comments on GN (and not just about Muslims). Strawman arguments are a little tedious.

Oreo 👏👏👏👏👏👏

No it isn’t, and aren’t you in the US btw? A site such as Gransnet is like a kitten compared to a tiger.

Oreo

I disagree, there are few racist posts on GN and you do not see it every day on this forum.

Totally disagree !
We even had the posters quoting a Russian news site about the alleged perpetrator of the killings of the young girls .
That created a lot of racist posts .
Lots of thinly veiled racism here .
It’s appalling .

Why ‘of course’ ?
This site is the least racist of possibly any in the world! It shows that many of you don’t know what’s out there.
It also shows that you seem to think racism is only the preserve of white people.It further shows that many live in lovely leafy areas and aren’t in touch with what goes on in the ‘mean streets’ of the UK.
Most people aren’t racists and live and let live but there are those who live on the fringes of society, usually young who have just about nothing, have had an awful start in life and these are the ones sucked into rioting that need thinking about.
We really are a broken society and I think it’s going to take real ambition on the part of the new government to fix it.It will take years and years but should begin right now.

He can call himself what he likes but if he isn’t religious and not a practising Muslim then he isn’t actually Muslim

A good point.