False information and incitement on SM and prosecuting the perpetrators

Oreo

I disagree, there are few racist posts on GN and you do not see it every day on this forum.

Well, I've never kept a record, so I don't know whether it's daily, but it's certainly regularly.

growstuff

I don't pretend to understand racial hatred at all.

As I have just posted, even people from different tribes, end up killing each other sometime.

Sure there have been wars started about less, too.

David49

Whatever personal opinion you may hold immigrants/migrants are a fact of life, they are not going away, so this mindless violence must stop, it’s not going to achieve anything

Wars "achieve" something.
People try and kill their enemies.

There have always been "tribal" wars.

Of course you would disagree Oreo. And yes, I see casual racism every day on threads here. It almost made me leave the site.
None so blind as those that will not see

Greyisnotmycolour

If you are going to argue about illegal immigration at least get the facts and terminology right. Migrants arriving by boat are not illegal immigrants. They are asylum seekers until their claims are processed and a decision is made as to whether or not their claim is valid. If their asylum claim is not approved they are deported. Approximately 80 % of asylum claims are genuine.

I had no idea that 20% are not.

Chocolatelovinggran

I'm a Christian and I have genuine concerns about the bible- belt- Trump- loving Christians in America might do if they affect the legislature of such a powerful country.
I fear for our daughters and granddaughters if their world view is enshrined in statute.
Islamaphobia, Anti - semitism plus a big dollop of misogyny will not make the any of us safer.

We have to hope that the Democrats will win.Not just for the people in the US either!

I disagree, there are few racist posts on GN and you do not see it every day on this forum.

Oreo

growstuff

Oreo

Not sure most people label but it makes them wary.

Many people do label and moreover make ridiculous stereotyped comments about Muslims.

As they also do about Jews.
growstuff you say you have a Muslim son-in-law, but that doesn’t mean you can try and make out people are racists who have concerns, valid and genuine concerns around Islamist extremism. The government and MI5 have concerns about it.
On a day to day level we treat people with respect whatever their race or religion is, or most people do.

I have not tried to make out that people with genuine concerns (and nothing else) are racists.

See it regularly - every day on GN

Oreo

growstuff

Oreo

Not sure most people label but it makes them wary.

Many people do label and moreover make ridiculous stereotyped comments about Muslims.

As they also do about Jews.
growstuff you say you have a Muslim son-in-law, but that doesn’t mean you can try and make out people are racists who have concerns, valid and genuine concerns around Islamist extremism. The government and MI5 have concerns about it.
On a day to day level we treat people with respect whatever their race or religion is, or most people do.

But they do label and make ridiculous stereotypical assumptions. I don't need a Muslim son-in-law to see that.

I'm a Christian and I have genuine concerns about the bible- belt- Trump- loving Christians in America might do if they affect the legislature of such a powerful country.
I fear for our daughters and granddaughters if their world view is enshrined in statute.
Islamaphobia, Anti - semitism plus a big dollop of misogyny will not make the any of us safer.

LizzieDrip

^Many people do label and moreover make ridiculous stereotyped comments about Muslims^

Absolutely Growstuff.

Fortunately I think tonight’s show of anti-racism across England demonstrates that the racists are in the minority.

Racists really are in the minority in the UK.

growstuff
If you had no concerns around using the tube or London transport around the time of the Islamist extremist bombings then you weren’t there.Everybody was extremely nervous I can tell you.

growstuff

Oreo

Not sure most people label but it makes them wary.

Many people do label and moreover make ridiculous stereotyped comments about Muslims.

As they also do about Jews.
growstuff you say you have a Muslim son-in-law, but that doesn’t mean you can try and make out people are racists who have concerns, valid and genuine concerns around Islamist extremism. The government and MI5 have concerns about it.
On a day to day level we treat people with respect whatever their race or religion is, or most people do.

Many people do label and moreover make ridiculous stereotyped comments about Muslims

Absolutely Growstuff.

Fortunately I think tonight’s show of anti-racism across England demonstrates that the racists are in the minority.

Oreo

Hang on a minute there,
Did you have to travel on the London tube when an Asian young man got on with a large rucksack? I can tell you that just about the whole carriage was wary.It can’t have been any fun for him either, but when attacks were rife in London it really did make people uneasy.
All everybody knew was that Islamist extremists were blowing places up.
It hasn’t gone away, but fortunately MI5 have got very good at foiling plots.

I chose to use the London tube and it never occurred to me that anybody with a brown face might be a terrorist. For all I know, anybody walking down the street could be a psychopath.

Oreo

Not sure most people label but it makes them wary.

Many people do label and moreover make ridiculous stereotyped comments about Muslims.

Oreo

To try and say that everybody and everything is racism just isn’t true.

Nobody's saying that everybody and everything is racist. However, there's a hard core of people who are racists.

LizzieDrip

It’s ridiculous to ‘be wary’ (or worse) about all Muslims / Asians because of the actions of a tiny, tiny minority. I would argue it has its roots in racism. Let’s call it what it is - a dislike of different skin colour!

For instance:
*Catholic priests are proven to have abused children. Are all Catholics viewed as abusers? I think not.

*The Yorkshire Ripper came from Yorkshire. Are all Yorkshire men viewed as rapist and murderers? I think not.

I’m sure I don’t need to go on.

My son-in-law isn't Asian. His ancestors are African. He's British to the core.

Oreo I so agree with you, its just so easy to fling “racist” around.

To try and say that everybody and everything is racism just isn’t true.

Hang on a minute there,
Did you have to travel on the London tube when an Asian young man got on with a large rucksack? I can tell you that just about the whole carriage was wary.It can’t have been any fun for him either, but when attacks were rife in London it really did make people uneasy.
All everybody knew was that Islamist extremists were blowing places up.
It hasn’t gone away, but fortunately MI5 have got very good at foiling plots.

growstuff

Labelling everybody belonging to a particular ethnic/religious group because of the actions of an extreme minority is racism.

Yes

It’s ridiculous to ‘be wary’ (or worse) about all Muslims / Asians because of the actions of a tiny, tiny minority. I would argue it has its roots in racism. Let’s call it what it is - a dislike of different skin colour!

For instance:
*Catholic priests are proven to have abused children. Are all Catholics viewed as abusers? I think not.

*The Yorkshire Ripper came from Yorkshire. Are all Yorkshire men viewed as rapist and murderers? I think not.

I’m sure I don’t need to go on.

Not sure most people label but it makes them wary.