Social Media - aiding and abetting

nanna8

I wouldn’t want to think my phone or social media accounts are being tapped by anyone, government or not. That is a dictatorship. Awful scenario. I thought only places like China and Russia did that sort of thing. If that is the UK you can keep it.

The ability to check your phone activity is open and undoubtedly used by every country in the world.

And not just social media - 'the media' itself. Many of us have raised concern about the constant demonisation of Muslims and migrants on front page of the DM and others, and reminding how the DM, for instance, supported what happened in Germany in the 30s.

And today videos of Farage's speech some time ago when he said to a full, very supportive audience, that he 'would be forced to take up a rifle and hit the front line' - massive applause.

“Farage claimed in an interview with LBC that he reposted the misinformation because he read it on Andrew Tate's site, so believed it was true. You couldn't make it up! hmm
LBC report
www.lbc.co.uk/news/nigel-farage-admits-getting-caught-up-in-andrew-tates-misinformation-following-s/
Its also in the Independent but a paywall.

Whichever way you cut it, he was part of the misinformation in those hours and particularly so as he is influential to his X followers.
Its a shame he isnt doing more now?”

Those of you claiming Farage is being “smeared”, isn’t at all racist and that all press is far left really need to rethink their beliefs.

Farage is now a serving MP and needs to be concerned about HIS constituency
and not bothering himself with appearing on various news shows. His role now is to serve! Serve Clacton and turn up in Parliament, nothing else! He has a job, he should concentrate on doing it.

That’s your opinion JudyBloom, not one I share. In what way has ww2 smeared Farage?

As for the MSM having one narrative - watch ch4 news, then sky, bbc, aljazeera, cnn - lots of different view points

JudyBloom

Whitewavemark2 Stop smearing Nigel Farage! If you watch GB News you will see that he is totally against the riots and violence. This is unfair, he is a decent human being and not at all racist. The main stream media have a lot to answer for and are so far left that they have to try and blame someone else. They only have one narrative and they want everyone else to think like them. At least GB News are fair and listen to people whatever their creed or belief.

Not everyone would agree with you.

Why is it a smear if it’s a true statement?

JudyBloom

Whitewavemark2 Stop smearing Nigel Farage! If you watch GB News you will see that he is totally against the riots and violence. This is unfair, he is a decent human being and not at all racist. The main stream media have a lot to answer for and are so far left that they have to try and blame someone else. They only have one narrative and they want everyone else to think like them. At least GB News are fair and listen to people whatever their creed or belief.

So it's ok that he spread misinformation given out by Andrew Tate? He is now a serving MP and needs to behave more responsibly imo.

Meanwhile private individuals are on tonight's lists, according to the Law society Gazette.

Not just solicitors who deal with immigration, but those alleged on the list to deal with immigration. And home addresses.

Read details
www.lawgazette.co.uk/news/lock-doors-and-leave-early-immigration-firms-on-hate-list-urged-to-be-cautious/5120581.article

Whitewavemark2 Stop smearing Nigel Farage! If you watch GB News you will see that he is totally against the riots and violence. This is unfair, he is a decent human being and not at all racist. The main stream media have a lot to answer for and are so far left that they have to try and blame someone else. They only have one narrative and they want everyone else to think like them. At least GB News are fair and listen to people whatever their creed or belief.

nanna8

I wouldn’t want to think my phone or social media accounts are being tapped by anyone, government or not. That is a dictatorship. Awful scenario. I thought only places like China and Russia did that sort of thing. If that is the UK you can keep it.

No, but most employers check a job applicants social media accounts. My DD was warned of this when teacher training, told to be very wary of what she posted, who saw it, and to keep any information secure. Common sense I think.

Chestnut

Tik Tok is apparently the worse for spreading stuff because it's not like the others. There is a programme about it on BBC3 tonight at 9pm called The Tik Tok Effect which was on before and I found shocking and scary, but we need to know these things.

The people running these social media platforms don't let their own children use them which says it all.

TikTok is, in my opinion anyway, a tool of the Chinese government. Take of that what you will

Iam64

I hoped the government would introduce legislation banning the use of balaclavas or face masks being used to intimidate, or hide appearance when involved in criminal activity.
I’m not sure if this can be done without a debate in Parliament.

There are reports this morning of those organising demonstrations/riots this evening, telling their supporters to mask up and leave their phones at home .

I’m finding the news hard to read, it’s so depressing

The Police have been to the shops in Southport which sell balaclavas (not a lot of demand one would think, in August), and now have CCTV of the purchasers.

Grandmabatty

Allsorts, perhaps you would be better posting on a thread which deals with your concerns? This thread clearly states its purpose.
It is very interesting that various police forces have used photos from social media to help track down individuals. One man already has been arrested regarding incitement. A Tory councillor's wife has deleted a truly horrible post on twitter and published a grovelling apology, but I suspect its too late for that. Social media has a huge part to play in causing unrest, but now it is helping to clear up the mess.

Yes, there are lots of people posting on Twitter, telling the Police who the perpetrators of the violence and incitement are. The Tory Councillor's wife is a bit late with her grovelling 'apology', she has now been arrested and detained in custody. She is also, unbelievably, a child minder, her registration body have been informed and have posted that they are aware and are taking action.

Perhaps government should disable all SM when there are riots.

growstuff

Wyllow Farage claimed in an interview with LBC that he reposted the misinformation because he read it on Andrew Tate's site, so believed it was true. You couldn't make it up!

Seriously, is this the action one would expect of a newly elected MP? If anyone did this, from any political party, I’d expect them to at least be spoken to about it, what sort of person would follow Andrew Tate? Mmmmm

nanna8

I wouldn’t want to think my phone or social media accounts are being tapped by anyone, government or not. That is a dictatorship. Awful scenario. I thought only places like China and Russia did that sort of thing. If that is the UK you can keep it.

Social Media can be accessed by almost anyone unless you’re very careful to sort out your privacy settings, even so if you join public forums it’s easy to track you.

I have no issue with this.

Chestnut

Tik Tok is apparently the worse for spreading stuff because it's not like the others. There is a programme about it on BBC3 tonight at 9pm called The Tik Tok Effect which was on before and I found shocking and scary, but we need to know these things.

The people running these social media platforms don't let their own children use them which says it all.

I've just watched that documentary thankyou Chestnut.. and just thank goodness that I am not part of TikTok.. very shocking and incomprehensible to me.. don't people have normal social interaction any more?

Wyllow3

growstuff

Wyllow Farage claimed in an interview with LBC that he reposted the misinformation because he read it on Andrew Tate's site, so believed it was true. You couldn't make it up!

LBC report
www.lbc.co.uk/news/nigel-farage-admits-getting-caught-up-in-andrew-tates-misinformation-following-s/
Its also in the Independent but a paywall.

Whichever way you cut it, he was part of the misinformation in those hours and particularly so as he is influential to his X followers.

Its a shame he isnt doing more now?

Apparently, he's gone to Hong Kong. (allegedly)

This coming weekend is going to be hot so may be trouble ahead.

Allsorts

Why do people keep saying illegal immigration is racial? It is not, it's numbers and knowing who we have in this country. Please don't keep twisting words.
These rioters are just disgusting, government know who they are and hopefully now they are dealt with. It's a pity we have to pay for them. Prison is expensive and they learn nothing from it, it just removes them society for a while,but what's the alternative? Social media has a lot to answer for it can't be that difficult to block them. My grandchildren are so wary now about where they go and not alone, they and the rest of us shouldn't feel this way.

Being concerned about the huge numbers of illegal immigration into the country isn’t racial.
Attacking somebody or using intimidation and hate speech about somebody from a different race clearly is.

On the subject of SM helping to find the ones causing or inciting criminal acts , yeah it’s a no brainer, but the ability to organise unrest by SM is also there, so a two edged sword.

growstuff

Wyllow Farage claimed in an interview with LBC that he reposted the misinformation because he read it on Andrew Tate's site, so believed it was true. You couldn't make it up!

LBC report
www.lbc.co.uk/news/nigel-farage-admits-getting-caught-up-in-andrew-tates-misinformation-following-s/
Its also in the Independent but a paywall.

Whichever way you cut it, he was part of the misinformation in those hours and particularly so as he is influential to his X followers.

Its a shame he isnt doing more now?

I agree very much about face coverings Iam but enforcing it on top of containing a riot or a demonstration would be the problem.

Wyllow Farage claimed in an interview with LBC that he reposted the misinformation because he read it on Andrew Tate's site, so believed it was true. You couldn't make it up!

nanna8 Phone tapping is illegal, except in exceptional circumstances.

However, if people post on social media, the posts are available to anybody authorised to be on the site. Some sites are "private" and require permission to join, but it's not that difficult to get access using a proxy server. Monitoring those posts is not "tapping".

Snippet from the BBC

"There's another question though, about online activity. Ministers want to make it clear that those inciting violence online will be treated the same as those inciting violence offline. There is concern over how misinformation about the suspect in the Southport killings spread, and the way events are being organised on social media.
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Ministers have held talks with social media companies to discuss these issues. But it's something governments have wrestled with for years.
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Remember the Online Safety Act? It does give Ofcom more powers to regulate hateful content and some disinformation. But those powers haven't been enacted yet

. The new government has suggested it will look at further powers in the future, but that could take some time".

I hadn't heard of the "Online Safety Act (2023), its couched mainly in terms of protecting children

www.gov.uk/government/publications/online-safety-act-explainer/online-safety-act-explainer

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So for now, ministers are focusing on working with social media companies. The question is: what happens if they don't agree?
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The essential: Keir Starmer wants a swift and tough response to rioting in England. But it will be harder to clamp down on online misinformation and disinformation quickly."

will they be spreading themselves too thinly

Let’s hope so MaizieD.

I heard of a planned ‘protest’ in Doncaster the other day to which one person turned up🤣

Billy No-Mates🤣🤣🤣