Don’t mess with the tolerant people in Brighton.

Wwm2 what do you mean? Do you mean- so long as you have not voted for Reform?

The first line I left off by mistake.

Hail! We ask not what thou art

This is the message to all people as they enter Brighton by road.

If friend we greet thee hand and heart. If stranger no longer be. If foe our love shall conquer thee.

LizzieDrip

Kandinsky why so angry and bitter?

If this country is truly f**cked up, as you say, why would you want to remain here?

You could be an ex pat?

Oreo

I can’t agree with a word of what you write about immigration MaizieD and fortunately nor does this government.

I'm sorry🤔.

What can't you agree with about what I am saying?

BlueBelle

I am so heartened by last night I am so joyful to know I m not the only dammed person in this country, who cares, it’s really lifted my spirits.
We are millions more and we must not be afraid to voice our care and support we need to all work together black, white and brown, forget colour see people for what they are not what their skin is like. A bad person is bad not because of his skin or his birthplace don’t be afraid, say good morning to your Muslim or Jewish neighbour smile at people acknowledge them it will come back four fold

That knowledge that we are not alone is what we must always cling on to.

Hear, hear BlueBelle 👏👏👏

I am so heartened by last night I am so joyful to know I m not the only dammed person in this country, who cares, it’s really lifted my spirits.
We are millions more and we must not be afraid to voice our care and support we need to all work together black, white and brown, forget colour see people for what they are not what their skin is like. A bad person is bad not because of his skin or his birthplace don’t be afraid, say good morning to your Muslim or Jewish neighbour smile at people acknowledge them it will come back four fold

I think more, especially in northern cities. I suppose it depends how Starmer gets on.

Kandinsky

4 million people voted for the reform party just a few months ago.

Funnily enough I wasn’t one of them.

Still ….4 million people agreeing with and liking Farage. If I were you I wouldn’t think about it. Those numbers might upset you.

Fortunately Kandinsky, you aren’t me, or any of the posters here whose more positive take on events last night you sneer at.

It does worry me that so many voted Farage. I wish they’d stayed with the Conservatives but of course, currently that party is a spent force. Let’s hope it rallies so we can have a decent opposition rather than Farage and his merry men.

Meanwhile I wish our government well and best endeavours in sorting out the unholy mess the last 14 years has left them with

Kandinsky why so angry and bitter?

If this country is truly f**cked up, as you say, why would you want to remain here?

Kandinsky

4 million people voted for the reform party just a few months ago.

Funnily enough I wasn’t one of them.

Still ….4 million people agreeing with and liking Farage. If I were you I wouldn’t think about it. Those numbers might upset you.

Which leaves how many who didn’t?

That cheers me.

But Farage is useless as a constituent MP, and I have no doubt they will live to regret their vote.

I get the sense that less people would vote Reform now than did a month ago, Tommy Robinson and Andrew Tait supporters have turned against him. I think the rioting will not help Reform’s corner either - time will tell on that nest time the polls are out, I guess in September now.

I can’t agree with a word of what you write about immigration MaizieD and fortunately nor does this government.

4 million people voted for the reform party just a few months ago.

Funnily enough I wasn’t one of them.

Still ….4 million people agreeing with and liking Farage. If I were you I wouldn’t think about it. Those numbers might upset you.

I don’t know if Whitewavemark2 means me MaizieD or other posters or just in the country.
Where do I say I’m anti immigrant on this thread or any other?
I agree with the government on immigration, that means legal admitted immigration where we need it, assessing those who arrive by small boat and claim to be asylum seekers and keeping those who are genuine and deporting economic migrants.

Oh Kandinsky, who openly supports Farage and co.

Rubbish, the peaceful protesters are fast outnumbering the rioters, if they haven't way outnumbered them already, in a truly marvellous show of typical British tolerance and community solidarity

Wonderful.
I look forward to a truly beautiful future, where we all skip happily through life hand in hand, with nothing but love & tolerance in our hearts.
🌈 ✨ 🌈

Oreo

Whitewavemark2

And before the anti-immigrants start jumping up and down..

Yes immigration will have to be dealt with, but dealt with in a grownup, non-populist way, where policy decisions are made and the rhetoric has gone, with immigration firmly put into its place alongside other issues so many left by the Tory government.
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Childhood poverty is a good start point imo.

Am not sure who you are labelling anti-immigrants, we need legal chosen immigration in the right numbers but not any other kind.Even the present government agrees on that.

I do agree tho on your last paragraph about it being dealt with properly.

I think you are probably one of the 'anti-immigrants Wwmk2 had in mind.

We are in the current mess because the tories picked immigration to focus on for purely populist reasons. Labour has no need to follow their example. We have a system of control already, it needs to be effectively administered, but there is no need for it to be high profile.

Labour needs to be focussed on the issues which made people vulnerable to manipulation over immigration. Thatnmade them receptive to the ideas of 'overcrowding, which let the tories off the hook for their destruction of the public sector infrastructure because they could just point to 'immigrants', asylum seekers in particular, to blame for lack of housing, gp appointments, NHS dentists etc. 'Controlling immigration' was a smokescreen. A smokescreen that Labour shouldn't be distracted by.

Kandinsky

I didn’t think much would happen last night. They’ve had almost a week of rioting so they’re done.
Unfortunately though, I don’t think a few drag queens sprinkling glitter is enough to save this severely divided, utterly f**ked up country.

Rubbish, the peaceful protesters are fast outnumbering the rioters, if they haven't way outnumbered them already, in a truly marvellous show of typical British tolerance and community solidarity.

We must also remember the immediate community efforts to clean up after the riots and help those whose houses and businesses had been damaged.

All I am waiting for is Elon Musk to jump to the media to acknowledge the way community effort has made the violent protester look the pathetic bunch of losers they really are.

I also think that the veiled racism we so often read has to be stopped as it adds to the environment of intolerance and lies.

Surely seeing people turn out to counter racism within their communities is a very positive thing? Hopefully it will say to people who have been subjected to racist behaviour that most of the people who live on this island are not racist, will not tolerate racism and celebrate diversity. For those who do harbour racist thoughts, perhaps they will think twice before sharing those thoughts on the basis it is what they imagine other people think because clearly, they don't!

The photos from all over the country by Joanne ? think from the guardian were really uplift ing. Sorry I cant attach it here.

not run the country but around the country.

I've been looking at I player news feed as it gives pictures and descriptions of the anti-riot demonstrations run the country. Not only some heart-warming moments and quotes cheering to look at, but also the nature of the different responses. Brighton was a one off in a way, very "Brighton"!

Two thoughts: I have no doubt that many of the people turning out in some areas were not heavily political but ordinary "not on my name" locals, and this really needed to happen as a response.

But there were a very small number willing to "fight it out". And this is inappropriate and counter productive.