Don’t mess with the tolerant people in Brighton.

When the weather gets colder/ wetter/ darker nights/ schools go back the rioting will stop.

Glad you made it plain

I can’t see any element of blame, that’s your take on it.
I simply mean my comment to be read as it’s written which couldn't be any plainer.
The Police really want people to stay at home now and they will deal with any further disruption/ disorder.

Oreo

The real worry is that if this continues, meaning both groups keep clogging up city centres, or even just one group keeps on doing it in their hundreds, shops and businesses will suffer and so will people trying to get from a to b.
It all needs policing heavily too.Last night was fine as an antidote but more nights won’t be fine.

You sound as if you are placing similar blame on both groups.

Try this

The far right thugs stop rioting and the people of peace will have no reason to turn out.

Georgesgran

Protests, probably the usual rent a mob hellbent on rioting, due in Newcastle too. I’m hoping the Toon Army will turn out in force and have the same calming outcome as seen in Brighton (and other places).

There was a peaceful protest in the west end of Newcastle. Good on them.

The real worry is that if this continues, meaning both groups keep clogging up city centres, or even just one group keeps on doing it in their hundreds, shops and businesses will suffer and so will people trying to get from a to b.
It all needs policing heavily too.Last night was fine as an antidote but more nights won’t be fine.

Even if all immigration stopped tomorrow, the populists would find something or someone else to blame, and would be able to incite those who are genuinely suffering as a result of the apparently entrenched inequality in this country. The far right thugs and neo-Nazis, of course, need little encouragement but I think they are comparatively few.

Reports out this week show that programme after programme (several of which I worked on) of rebalancing regional economies over the past 25 years have failed, partly because some were poorly designed, but significantly because of the refusal to genuinely rebalance the distribution of resources and take actions to reduce systemic inequalities.

It is this that I hope this government will make inroads into.

I do not think that anyone is suggesting that getting the right balance when it comes to immigration is an easy task. Many nations are grappling with this right now.

But the sort of blind hatred we have seen this week warrants an antidote - which is not a solution by any means but is a way of recognising our shared humanity. I can only applaud this wholeheartedly.

Fleurpepper

Callistemon213

In the words of Joan Baez:

We shall, overcome

Yes, thought about her yesterday. Almost 54 years since I heard her sing it live at the Isle of Wight.

Yes, made my heart sing to see all those decent, tolerant and wonderful people turning out all over the country to stand up to those racist thugs.

Sorry about the superfluous comma.

This stylus has a mind of its own.

So I have the greatest sympathy for the infirm whose needs were not met

Ronib so do I.

If only far right, racist thug’s hadn’t been rioting for a week, thousands of ordinary people would not have had to come out last night to show solidarity against racism.

ronib

LizzieDrip you might not know that even though riots didn’t happen last night, carers took precautions and stayed away from areas where demonstrations were happening. So I have the greatest sympathy for the infirm whose needs were not met. Yet again.

This is true, and many offices and businesses lost money too.
The Police hoped people would stay at home from both sides.
In East London there were def those who came prepared for a ruck in amongst all the peaceful protesters.Heavily masked, hoods and sunglasses.You don’t do that if you’re there for a peaceful march.Thankfully there were no far right protesters so no clashes.If there had been tho it would just have been another headache for the Police.
I really hope that’s the end of all this and things go back to normal.

Callistemon213

In the words of Joan Baez:

We shall, overcome

Yes, thought about her yesterday. Almost 54 years since I heard her sing it live at the Isle of Wight.

Yes, made my heart sing to see all those decent, tolerant and wonderful people turning out all over the country to stand up to those racist thugs.

Whitewavemark2

And before the anti-immigrants start jumping up and down..

Yes immigration will have to be dealt with, but dealt with in a grownup, non-populist way, where policy decisions are made and the rhetoric has gone, with immigration firmly put into its place alongside other issues so many left by the Tory government.
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Childhood poverty is a good start point imo.

Am not sure who you are labelling anti-immigrants, we need legal chosen immigration in the right numbers but not any other kind.Even the present government agrees on that.

I do agree tho on your last paragraph about it being dealt with properly.

Well done Brighton, that's the way to respond to these ridiculous people , who ever thought of doing this reception at the station deserves recognition 👏👏
Hearing this has made my day. 👍

LizzieDrip you might not know that even though riots didn’t happen last night, carers took precautions and stayed away from areas where demonstrations were happening. So I have the greatest sympathy for the infirm whose needs were not met. Yet again.

Yes WW, the Mail’s headline today is one of the most blatant demonstrations of hypocrisy I’ve ever seen!

Never forget though that when these thugs and dissenters go quiet, they have not gone away, but the trick is to push back as soon as they pop up.

Don’t give them the oxygen of legitimacy.

Anyone believe the headline of the Daily mail today, after years and years of creating an environment that demonised immigrants?

You’d be a fool if you did.

In the words of Joan Baez:

We shall, overcome

Hear hear WWMk2. There are many in this country who feel “left behind” in the ever widening equality gap.
My heart was cheered when I saw the news last night where so many people demonstrated peacefully and in huge numbers all over the country to show that the fascists do not riot in their name.

I agree Ronib.

It must have been awful for them during the far right, hate riots of the last week.

Fortunately, there were no riots on the streets last night

LizzieDrip it wasn’t so lovely for the ill people whose carers stayed at home for fear of their own safety with riots in the streets was it?

Protests, probably the usual rent a mob hellbent on rioting, due in Newcastle too. I’m hoping the Toon Army will turn out in force and have the same calming outcome as seen in Brighton (and other places).

And before the anti-immigrants start jumping up and down..

Yes immigration will have to be dealt with, but dealt with in a grownup, non-populist way, where policy decisions are made and the rhetoric has gone, with immigration firmly put into its place alongside other issues so many left by the Tory government.
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Childhood poverty is a good start point imo.

WW

Completely agree

henetha

I'd been dreading another day of rioting, but it turned out to be a great day of us standing up to the bullies.
This country has many problems, as do most countries, but we are absolutely not finished, washed up, doomed. Some people love to say it is. Wouldn't it be better to have a positive attitude, work hard to improve ourselves, be thankful for all the good instead of emphasising the bad all the time.
There is much to fix. I hope Keir Starmer is the one to start improving things.

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