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Don’t mess with the tolerant people in Brighton.

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Whitewavemark2 Wed 07-Aug-24 19:41:36

So, the fascists turned up outside of the targeted building, and as far as I can see the road is full of the tolerant folk who are as someone said are really tolerant of tolerance, and very intolerant of intolerance.

I've no idea if it's true, but the word here in Brighton is that the fascists were met off the trains by drag queens and a samba band.

You don't have to be an idiot to bring white supremacy to the most welcoming and inclusive city in the country, but it sure helps

Yoginimeisje Thu 29-Aug-24 07:14:56

No, not locals.

MissAdventure Wed 28-Aug-24 09:20:29

They were locals, though, weren't they, yogi?
The machete lot?

Yoginimeisje Wed 28-Aug-24 08:59:25

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JaneJudge Thu 22-Aug-24 16:31:44

people complain about all sorts of 'others' though, even respite facilities for disabled people are complained about.

Iam64 Thu 22-Aug-24 14:10:23

Who are ‘the people who deal with housing asylum seekers? In my experience, that’s usually done through official rather than charitable organisations so I’d expect local housing and children’s services to be involved in some way

I’m not clear how one house for young asylum seekers can cause locals to feel aggrieved, anxious or powerless. How many children - how many staff in support.

Wyllow3 Thu 22-Aug-24 11:55:21

(I do live in a city with substantial numbers but its grown up through time not sudden - there hasn't been the sort of particular reaction you describe)

Wyllow3 Thu 22-Aug-24 11:44:45

What assurances are they seeking? Numbers? supervision?

luluaugust Thu 22-Aug-24 11:10:46

We have an interesting situation developing in our town not far out of London. We have until recently been a town with a white population and one other ethnic group. This has worked very well indeed and there is mixing and of late years intermarriage. The people who deal with housing asylum seekers have in their wisdom decided to buy a house for child asylum seekers (teenagers) in a poorer part of the town, uproar in a very British way has ensued with a protest. Apparently neither the MP, County Council or local Council can have any say in this matter or give any assurances. Is it surprising that the little local street feel aggrieved, anxious and powerless. It has done wonders for local cohesion even if it’s not democracy.

Wyllow3 Thu 22-Aug-24 10:38:30

Anything for a "Stirring the pot" soundbite: where are the interviews with people with more moderate/sympathetic views about the genuine needs of asylum seekers and their life stories (whilst accepting we will need to deport some after due full assessment of).

keepingquiet Thu 22-Aug-24 09:35:48

I love the overall positivity of this post but the problem won't be going away.

I heard a comment about the hotel in Rotherham that has now had to close. The young man in the interview replied 'Good, we got a result then.'

Why was he even interviewed? I don't think the media are goung to let this go anytime soon.

Grantanow Thu 22-Aug-24 09:31:04

Just scaremongering. Best ignored.

pascal30 Thu 22-Aug-24 09:30:34

pascal30

well I said that inflammatory language never brings a peaceful conclusion but I replied to a poster who was also deleted..

good post Iam

Iam64 Thu 22-Aug-24 09:00:42

Full fact check confirms that asylum seeking people aren’t allowed to work. If they’re in accommodation that does not provide food, an individual is given just under £50 per week

They do not get ‘given’ bikes or mobile phones by the government. Charities may distribute mobile phones donated to them by people who upgrade and no longer use their old mobile.

Shanty girl may have ‘been right’ as Oreo states, in stating asylum seekers are given bikes and mobile phones - but her meaning was deliberately inflammatory. She implied tax payers money is going to provide iPhones and bikes to undeserving people while we have an increase in homelessness. We have huge social problems, many directly linked to the policies and actions of the government over the last 14 years. Like every other country in Northern Europe, we are struggling to manage the increase in people from war torn or dangerous countries who are seeking sanctuary.

pascal30 Thu 22-Aug-24 08:47:13

well I said that inflammatory language never brings a peaceful conclusion but I replied to a poster who was also deleted..

Quokka Wed 21-Aug-24 22:47:44

Quokka

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Shrugs and moves on …haven’t the faintest idea what I said that caused a deletion!

pascal30 Tue 20-Aug-24 09:19:44

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Farzanah Mon 19-Aug-24 15:57:20

Most of the claims that Shantygirl makes can be debunked with objective research, but I find when opinions are set it’s a waste of time trying to alter them.

pascal30 Mon 19-Aug-24 15:40:48

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Farzanah Mon 19-Aug-24 15:37:00

😀 Poetic Justice.

MissAdventure Mon 19-Aug-24 15:25:49

smile

JaneJudge Mon 19-Aug-24 15:24:46

It is an irony that the convicted rioters may be renovating the bikes passed on to asylum seekers smile

JaneJudge Mon 19-Aug-24 15:23:12

disused bikes are sent to prisons for prisoners to repair as part of their rehabilitation too. I'm in favour of schemes like this, what is not to like

Oreo Mon 19-Aug-24 15:21:39

So they do get given bikes then. It doesn’t bother me if they do but posters have to realise that Shantygirl was correct in that they have bikes and mobile phones .

foxie48 Mon 19-Aug-24 14:32:17

There are a number of Bike projects around the country that you can donate an unwanted bike to, it's renovated and checked for safety then given to all sorts of different people who would benefit. Some projects focus on people with mental health issues, others link to migrant charities etc. It's a wonderful way to give used bikes a second life and helps the recipients to save money, keep fit and travel around. It's sad to see how charitable projects like these get used to support a negative narrative other than the positive one that they deserve.