The Telegraph headlines always derogatory about Starmer.

Spot on HelterSkelter.

I read neither the Mail nor The Telegraph. And it is a dream come true to not have to see on the TV nor listen on Radio 4 Today to the lying incompetent bunch of Tory MPs, cabinet minsters and PM.
I see the newspaper headlines on the BBC newsfeed and skip past the hypocritical scaremongering stuff as quickly as I can.

I look at Starmer and think thank heavens we now have a serious and capable prime minister. I like what others term “boring”. Had enough of personality politics. Here is someone who has worked for others for free and deserved his knighthood. What a contrast from the corrupt element which was evident in the Tory Party. Jenrick I am thinking of as just one who engineered lucrative contracts. No doubt the Telegraph will be polishing his image.

Politics is a rough game.

I think it shows that however much Starmer tries to appeal to Conservatives by aping their policies, he will never win over the right wing press. he may as well have stuck to decent Labour values.

Starker. Fat fingers!

The Telegraph supports the Tories, especially the right wing. What can one expect from it but running down Starker?⁸

He seems to be managing without Neil Youngs support

The Telegraph is fighting back about the possibility that they will have to pay their taxes in full in the future. That's why they hate Starmer.

I think he's great & dealt with the riots really well & Tony Blair should have closed more tax loopholes than he did so I welcome business etc paying proper taxes

I think most media is swayed one way or another, ie Left or Right.

I use Apple News, the DT headlines are appallingly misleading and often focus on what they think Labour are going to do, ie Tax Pensioners, get rid of the triple lock, get rid of bus passes, ruin education, etc etc.

I too now go through various news sources and hope I can get a fairly accurate and balanced view.

fancythat

Galaxy

Sorry! They tend to listen to long form podcasts fancy that, the podcasts are generally biased to one side or the other but I think worrying about the telegraph is pointless. One clip from Joe Rogan for example is viewed by 19 million.

And I dont even know who Joe Rogan is!

I dont think any of my kids look at any newspapers.
They dont listen to BBC news.
None of them have subscription TV.
1 is on Facebook.

I need to find out what they actually do listen to or watch.

Very little, I believe.

I was shocked to silence when chatting to the teenage apprentice at the hairdressers.

a..Didn't know where Bristol was.
b.. Though Exeter was near London (Essex?)
c. No idea of the name of the P.M.

I know who Joe Rogan is. He's a libertarian who promotes lies about HIV/Aids, and Covid vaccines and treatments. He opposes gun control, said that RF Kennedy is a nice guy, but rowed back on that when Trump whined at him, and supports De Santis.

His podcast audience is over 80% male, and he is the epitome of toxic masculinity. Check out any feminist board from FB to Reddit to see why. Polls from the last year suggest that about 60% of American women would not even go on a date with a man who listens to Rogan. He's the reason people like Neil Young, Joni Mitchell and Crosby, Stills & Nash removed their music from Spotify, when he was given space there.

fancythat

Galaxy

Sorry! They tend to listen to long form podcasts fancy that, the podcasts are generally biased to one side or the other but I think worrying about the telegraph is pointless. One clip from Joe Rogan for example is viewed by 19 million.

And I dont even know who Joe Rogan is!

I dont think any of my kids look at any newspapers.
They dont listen to BBC news.
None of them have subscription TV.
1 is on Facebook.

I need to find out what they actually do listen to or watch.

I bet that would be interesting fancythat.

Joe Rogan has so many differing people and differing subject matters, that very often they intersect, because he isn't in a bubble or controlled by a wealthy advertising executive, for example.

Which means the viewer is exposed to avenues of information that would never make it to the main stream tv channels.

For me I find it far more interesting and informative than sticking to msm.

The breadth of subjects covered alone informs the narrative on msm, but from a different angle.

He isn't the only one out there, but he is probably the most watched.

Galaxy

Sorry! They tend to listen to long form podcasts fancy that, the podcasts are generally biased to one side or the other but I think worrying about the telegraph is pointless. One clip from Joe Rogan for example is viewed by 19 million.

And I dont even know who Joe Rogan is!

I dont think any of my kids look at any newspapers.
They dont listen to BBC news.
None of them have subscription TV.
1 is on Facebook.

I need to find out what they actually do listen to or watch.

In my opinion The Telegraph Newspaper is an oxymoron.

Galaxy

Sorry! They tend to listen to long form podcasts fancy that, the podcasts are generally biased to one side or the other but I think worrying about the telegraph is pointless. One clip from Joe Rogan for example is viewed by 19 million.

This is it really, the papers and tv formats are on the way out.
I should think we can expect more polarisation with regards to output in the future.
If only to attract the dwindling followers.

MaizieD

Oh, sorry, AGGAA4. Ignore my last....

I realise my original post wasn't clear and should have read 'I don't give two hoots what the Telegraph says'.

Sorry! They tend to listen to long form podcasts fancy that, the podcasts are generally biased to one side or the other but I think worrying about the telegraph is pointless. One clip from Joe Rogan for example is viewed by 19 million.

They tend to listen to long form podc

The Telegraph is a Tory paper which says it all!

My husband thought that I needed to see and hear Starmer speaking in real life rather than through the prism of tv coverage. I do find myself quite irritated by the way a number of politicians of all parties have presented themselves in public. I don’t think that I shall be able to meet with Starmer directly though. It’s a thought….

Sometimes dip my toe in the guardian or watch channel 4 news.

Well it isn’t nicknamed ‘The Torygraph’ for nothing.
According to the sensational headlines Starmer is leading us all into certain oblivion, though I would consider it a bit difficult to lead us somewhere the Tories have already been taking us to for 14 years.

I think the Telegraph gives a fair representation of Starmer's performance.

I was gifted a year's subscription to the Telegraph last year. As I'd stopped subscribing to the Guardian for its anti-feminist stance I was prepared to give it a chance. I expected to disagree with a lot of it, but didn't expect the laughably biased journalism. Last summer the election hadn't been announced, so there were lots (and I mean several times a week) of articles about impending WW3 and how we are unprepared. At the time there were several threads on MN from young mothers wanting to build bunkers or leave the country because they were terrified for their children's lives, and I was saddened to think that their mental health was being impacted by stories like that. At my age and having lived through more crises I was able to be more dispassionate - at times I laughed at the hyperbole and scaremongering, as it was so bad - but my first baby was born when we were at war with Iraq, and I well remember the hormonal fear and desperation to protect my unborn child.

As the election approached, it was as though the 'imminent' world war had been called off for the duration, and attacks on Labour took over. The subscription ran out before the election, and I didn't renew it . I now subscribe to i, and am still unsure what I think.