Why do Asylum Seekers cross the channel on small boats

I couldn’t understand why Scotland wasn’t chosen instead of Rwanda?

Whatever they say 70% of crossings are successful, which sounds to me like not really trying, if it depends on the UK paying the French more to do the job properly, it’s going to be a lot cheaper than the stupid Rwanda plan.

David49

M0nica

Does anyone have any ideas how these boats could be stopped?

The French police watch the boats being launched, I simply don’t believe they could not puncture the inflatables and stop them launching.

There is no sympathy at all for the UK in Europe because they have a higher migration than we do, so they take the money and go through the motions.

Did you read the articles from French media that I posted David49. I honestly don't know how anyone could have a realistic picture of what is actually happening by relying on anglophone media.

M0nica

Does anyone have any ideas how these boats could be stopped?

The French police watch the boats being launched, I simply don’t believe they could not puncture the inflatables and stop them launching.

There is no sympathy at all for the UK in Europe because they have a higher migration than we do, so they take the money and go through the motions.

Even when we came here in the early 1970s we had to jump through many hoops to get a visa. We are both qualified , my husband actually had a job offer in a University but it still took almost a year before they let us in. We had a personal interview at Australia house and thought we would be rejected because our baby played up and tried to destroy the office. Maybe they wanted rid of us ? They also counselled us on how difficult emigration is and that we needed to find a social network asap. Which we did.

Nanna8, my only experience with Australia is via ^Nothing to Declare.
It appears they are very strict about arriving with a work permit visa or you get shipped back to where you came from.
That happens week after week on the program.

I chat to a group of Vietnamese migrants quite often. They still have parents and family back in Vietnam and they send money back there to assist the older ones because they don’t have pensions or any government help and if you can’t work, have no close family or support, you can starve. That is why many of them like to come and I suppose it is the same with the UK. We wouldn’t let anyone here die of starvation and I assume the UK wouldn’t,either. Economic migrants I suppose but they work very hard.They don’t come on boats,though, and are checked out before they stay. Difference.

Mollygo So far all suggestions, Rwanda, Bibby Stockholm, etc have been rejected.
Exactly, this is the problem. Any attempt to discourage or remove them is blocked. Even when they try and deport criminals there are people dragging them off the airplane trying to keep them here. And people on TV with placards saying 'migrants welcome' is only going to encourage more.

M0nica

Does anyone have any ideas how these boats could be stopped?

Not really. So far all suggestions, Rwanda, Bibby Stockholm, etc have been rejected.

I’m not being paid over £90k to find an answer or I’d put more effort into finding a solution.

Monica process all asylum applications off shore? I think Italy is going to do this.

Does anyone have any ideas how these boats could be stopped?

Yes Mollygo completely agree….

It’s a lot easier to take money from pensioners than it is to stop the boats and Starmer knew that before he started.
I didn’t expect an immediate halt, but I’m watching closely to see what happens and how long it takes.
Under the last government, I’m almost certain I’d be reading claims that the WFA proposal was to divert attention from the failure to deal with the boats.

Chestnut

Back to the boats, yesterday we had 492 new arrivals, making 19,066 this year. No matter how quickly these are processed there are too many. Can any system process that many in one day, and where will they all go? This is just an endless stream of illegal migrants and it will not stop unless something drastic is done.
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13754745/migrants-successfully-illegally-crossed-channel-Britain-Labour-axed-Rwanda-scheme.html

I just don’t think the will to take drastic action is there and am awaiting what Keir Starmer will do over the next couple of years.
Since the Rwanda scheme was abandoned something else has to take its place.

growstuff how about a deterrent - for example, processing asylum applications off shore? ………

Chestnut

Back to the boats, yesterday we had 492 new arrivals, making 19,066 this year. No matter how quickly these are processed there are too many. Can any system process that many in one day, and where will they all go? This is just an endless stream of illegal migrants and it will not stop unless something drastic is done.
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13754745/migrants-successfully-illegally-crossed-channel-Britain-Labour-axed-Rwanda-scheme.html

What drastic action do you suggest?

Back to the boats, yesterday we had 492 new arrivals, making 19,066 this year. No matter how quickly these are processed there are too many. Can any system process that many in one day, and where will they all go? This is just an endless stream of illegal migrants and it will not stop unless something drastic is done.
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13754745/migrants-successfully-illegally-crossed-channel-Britain-Labour-axed-Rwanda-scheme.html

In recent years our rural village has become much more cosmopolitan with British people of diverse ethnicities moving into it. I think we have Ukrainian refugees in the village and no one bats an eyelid if the person in front of them at the Co-op is not a white anglo-saxon protestant.

Two of our GPs are probably originally from Africa, and two of the doctors I see at the hospital are Irish born and bred. So what.

Cossy

sazz1

If the UK had a surplus of accommodation and nobody was sleeping in vans tents etc I think people would be a lot more welcoming.
But people are selfish and very NIMBY. They don't want refugees or homeless hostals next to their homes.
So how many on here who have a spare bedroom or 2 would offer that to a refugee or someone sleeping in a tent? And how many defending the boats would be happy to have a refugee house that housed say 6 people next door and would welcome them?
People defending the boats and feeling sorry for the people online behind a keyboard, or standing in a peaceful protest is one thing.
But if it was next door or in your house would you be happy with that?
Latest is Labour plans to renovate buildings throughout the UK and scatter these boat people in various locations to help them integrate better.
So soon they could be your neighbours.

I have no problem with having asylum seekers living next door to me, we have a very multi cultural community where I live, people causing the most issues, sadly, are young white British youths.

I wonder why that is. 🤔

Allsorts

Why do they cross safe countries in order to make that journey? I think we all know why but the powers that be don't care. Just hit the pensioners and our young people.

Yes, of course we all know why they come to Britain. It is because most of them speak English as a second language and they already have friends and family here and the British history of colonisation and conquest means that their country has either been part of the British commonwealth or in the past has been under British influence so they see Britain as a ccuntry they are familiar with .

Those are the reasons that nationals from countries under French influence and once French colonies generally flee and stay in France, and in a more convoluted way, why so many Turkish people went to Germany

I think we all know why but the powers that be don't care. Just hit the pensioners and our young people

Allsorts when to say ‘the powers that be’ I presume you’re referring to the previous (Conservative) government, as immigration rose hugely during their time running the country.

If you’ve followed the endless discussions here about ‘why they cross safe countries’ etc - you must be aware of the explanations given

Why do they cross safe countries in order to make that journey? I think we all know why but the powers that be don't care. Just hit the pensioners and our young people.

sazz1

If the UK had a surplus of accommodation and nobody was sleeping in vans tents etc I think people would be a lot more welcoming.
But people are selfish and very NIMBY. They don't want refugees or homeless hostals next to their homes.
So how many on here who have a spare bedroom or 2 would offer that to a refugee or someone sleeping in a tent? And how many defending the boats would be happy to have a refugee house that housed say 6 people next door and would welcome them?
People defending the boats and feeling sorry for the people online behind a keyboard, or standing in a peaceful protest is one thing.
But if it was next door or in your house would you be happy with that?
Latest is Labour plans to renovate buildings throughout the UK and scatter these boat people in various locations to help them integrate better.
So soon they could be your neighbours.

I have no problem with having asylum seekers living next door to me, we have a very multi cultural community where I live, people causing the most issues, sadly, are young white British youths.

GrannyGravy13

Our AC served in Afghanistan.

What Freya5 said is true, there were 457 U.K. service personnel killed in Afghanistan 405 of which were killed by hostile forces.

7,436 were injured requiring hospitalisation in field hospitals.
616 serious casualties in action

Not every Afghani is a member of the Taliban, but many were and still are.

I applaud those who helped the allied forces to the detriment of themselves and their families, but I am also able to acknowledge the reality of war in Afghanistan.

Thank you for sharing your knowledge. It must be very worrying to have AC in our armed forces