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Why do Asylum Seekers cross the channel on small boats

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Cossy Sun 11-Aug-24 19:50:09

Primrose53

They cross in small boats because theFrench don’t stopthem.

Honestly Primrose, why don’t you read the links and have a little more understanding (and god forbid empathy)

It seems you’re so brainwashed by certain political parties and media that you utterly refuse to accept that ANYONE coming over on the boats (or in the back of lorries) is a genuine refugee!

I worked with a good few, some arriving were unaccompanied minors (not the 5 or so who have been identified as over 18).

You just seem hell bent on believing everyone seeking asylum is a wicked criminal coming here to rape and pillage (they are not Vikings)

All of us here are grown up enough to realise that amongst those coming there are going to be those who are economic migrants trying their luck and an element of criminality. Just like in other large cohorts of people, some good, some bad.

The real criminals of course are the traffickers and those running our black economy who literally imprison some of these migrants into modern slavery.

I did some work and attended some training with the Kent and Essex Serious Crime Team, on human trafficking and modern slavery in this country, it was shocking.

Chocolatelovinggran Sun 11-Aug-24 19:38:02

Did you read my post Primrose?

Grandmabatty Sun 11-Aug-24 19:24:10

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Whitewavemark2 Sun 11-Aug-24 19:10:22

Primrose53

They cross in small boats because theFrench don’t stopthem.

Your post clearly shows that you haven’t read a single link.

Primrose53 Sun 11-Aug-24 19:08:48

They cross in small boats because theFrench don’t stopthem.

foxie48 Sun 11-Aug-24 19:04:20

migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/migration-to-the-uk-asylum/

This is also a useful source of information based on statistics.

sazz1 Sun 11-Aug-24 18:09:57

These links are very informative. Thanks Cossy x

Whitewavemark2 Sun 11-Aug-24 14:25:47

Wyllow3

Your last web reference cossy is a "must read" about how the smugglers operate. Its so clear that tackling them is quite rightly a key aim.

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Wyllow3 Sun 11-Aug-24 14:12:38

Your last web reference cossy is a "must read" about how the smugglers operate. Its so clear that tackling them is quite rightly a key aim.

Cossy Sun 11-Aug-24 13:33:39

I’m still not sure some of our GNs do truly understand what seeking asylum actually means….asylum can be sought for a myriad of reasons, but mostly connected with their governments, for example Russia or more recently Afghanistan, imagine trying to leave those countries safely and legally?

There are no “safe, legal” routes into this country for asylum seekers, and you have to request asylum in person, in the country in which you wish to grant you asylum.

Chocolatelovinggran Sun 11-Aug-24 12:33:41

My young friend A came to Britain as an asylum seeker from Iran. He felt that his political views put him in danger, as they had already caused him to be estranged from his family.
He chose here because, like many educated Iranins he spoke excellent English. As far as I know, he does not speak French.
Once granted leave to remain he found work.
He is, in addition, a hardworking local Councillor, and has married a local woman.
Sadly, he has no contact with his Iranian family.

maddyone Sun 11-Aug-24 12:24:09

Why do asylum seekers cross the Channel on small boats?

Because they have enough money to pay the smugglers. Because they can’t get a visa to enter the UK legally. If they could get a visa to enter the UK legally they would because why would they risk their lives otherwise.

Chestnut Sun 11-Aug-24 12:20:27

And here are some of the countries they come from.

Cossy Sun 11-Aug-24 12:12:53

This is a thread in answer to a question on a thread totally unrelated to the crossings.

This isn’t about the rights and wrongs of it, or why Asylum Seekers don’t seek Asylum in the first safe country they come across, though if you do wish to know more click on this link!

www.unhcr.org/uk/refugees#:~:text=They%20provide%20the%20universal%20definition,freedom%20would%20be%20at%20risk.

For reasons why people seek asylum here in the UK:-

www.refugeecouncil.org.uk/information/refugee-asylum-facts/understanding-channel-crossings/

www.redcross.org.uk/stories/migration-and-displacement/refugees-and-asylum-seekers/5-reasons-people-cross-the-channel

theconversation.com/ive-spent-time-with-refugees-in-french-coastal-camps-and-they-told-me-the-governments-rwanda-plan-is-not-putting-them-off-coming-to-the-uk-221798

Enough info here (I hope) to both explain and to be balanced.