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That new Labour MP’s ten flats with ants and mould…

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Witzend Sat 31-Aug-24 09:19:18

How much greater would be the outrage if it were a Tory MP?
Ten times? Fifty times?
I can’t help wondering!

NonGrannyMoll Tue 11-Feb-25 12:14:52

Galaxy

I think it should be a resignation matter, I am not interested in what party he belongs to.

Exactly so, couldn't agree more. Too many people just latch onto political this-&-that in order to insult the Party they hate and push the Party they love. A bit more balanced reasoning and a bit less bias would raise the tone no end.

Casdon Tue 11-Feb-25 12:04:30

The government are doing something about this.
www.housingtoday.co.uk/news/government-announces-phased-timetable-for-awaabs-law/5134238.article

Mollygo Tue 11-Feb-25 12:00:31

No it is relevant. They would be quick to complain if it was done by someone from another party.

Absolutely.
Of course it’s relevant, especially if the party concerned is claiming to do something with reference to private landlords’ treatment of tenants, even if such LP claims are not mould related.

Wyllow3 Tue 11-Feb-25 11:45:21

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Shinamae Tue 11-Feb-25 11:34:06

Oreo

Galaxy

I think it should be a resignation matter, I am not interested in what party he belongs to.

Of course he should, does Labour want somebody like him as their MP? Do voters know about this who voted him in?
And to think he was the leader of Redbridge Council! I know Ilford well, and still have friends there, used to be a nice place many years ago but not anymore.
Come on Keir, boot him out.

He was “profoundly sorry”because he’s been found out…😡

Jaxjacky Tue 11-Feb-25 11:28:21

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mae13 Tue 03-Sept-24 01:40:07

This "slum" landlord has put up the paper-thin defence that he knew nothing and it was the duty of an agency, employed by himself to manage these hovels, to take responsibility - this seems to include threatening eviction if complaints are made.

"Nuffink to do wiv me, Guv!"

Definitely shades of notorious slum landlord Peter Rachman whose alledged methods of 'managing' his properties put him on a par with the Kray twins.

biglouis Tue 03-Sept-24 00:12:27

A relative of mine took early retirement on health grounds and has part of his rent paid by Housing Benefit. He tops up the deficit himself. The HB is paid to him direct and his LL (who officially does not take HB tenants) has no idea. Its not the business of the LL to know the source of the income so long as the rent is being paid. The LA is not going to give the LL confidential information about the tenant without their authority. I believe HA has now been superceded by UC for new claims by working age tenants.

Wyllow3 Tue 03-Sept-24 00:09:26

Yes definitely, my reason for including the information from Shelter.

Mollygo Tue 03-Sept-24 00:00:16

There will hopefully be a focus on all landlords and properties too. It would be shocking if the properties with mould, ants and other serious defects were only dealt with if they were owned/run by MPs.

Wyllow3 Mon 02-Sept-24 23:15:59

There will hopefully now be a focus on all MP's who own property as rentals. Last figures I could find were in April 2023 with a total of 87 declaring property.

Also further measures to protect those in rented properties. As far as I can find out the Renters (Reform) bill proposed in 2023 did not get into legislation.

Shelter information
england.shelter.org.uk/support_us/campaigns/renters_reform_bill

MissAdventure Mon 02-Sept-24 21:59:42

Ah, I don't know, but it's probably worth checking out.

M0nica Mon 02-Sept-24 21:51:34

MissAdventure

I can vouch for the fact that don't always.
Like any other service, there are good and bad ones.

In a case like this where they are dealing with a block of flats, they may not be brilliant, but the neglect of these flats was so extensive, it can only have been on the landlord's instructions.

Has any research been done into the owership of the agency and any personal links between the MP and owners/managers of the managing agents

MissAdventure Mon 02-Sept-24 21:36:15

I can vouch for the fact that don't always.
Like any other service, there are good and bad ones.

David49 Mon 02-Sept-24 21:01:43

He had 10 flats they only get maintained if he authorizes maintenence he knew exactly what they were like, agents do as they are told.

M0nica Mon 02-Sept-24 20:25:21

Managing Agents do as the landlord's tell them. If the flats were not properly serviced and repaired, it will be because the owner would not sanction repair work..

The agent would have had his instructions from the owner - and followed them.

This man isn't just a bad and oppressive landlord. He is a coward, sheltering behind his agent, instead of having the courage and decency to admit that he was an old style Rachmanite slum landlord.

Cossy Mon 02-Sept-24 19:22:39

petra

Back in the day some landlords preferred tenants on benefits because you knew the rent was coming directly to them.
Then it changed. Not for the best in some cases.

Landlords can still request direct payments, as can the tenants and even the work coach, DWP just keep very quiet about this!

Cossy Mon 02-Sept-24 19:21:34

Casdon

It’s illegal to discriminate against people on benefits, but it’s easy for landlords to circumnavigate that by setting the rent for their property above the local housing allowance rate for benefits claimants.
I don’t think there is any excuse for any landlord to rent uninhabitable housing to anybody, they have a responsibility to make sure it is up to standard, whether they use an agency or not. The landlord’s beef is with the agency if they are paying them and find they aren’t doing their job properly.

👏👏👏👏👏

Let’s be honest here (or him) those properties did get in that state overnight, it’s years of neglect and there’s absolutely no excuse for black mould

petra Mon 02-Sept-24 19:15:26

Back in the day some landlords preferred tenants on benefits because you knew the rent was coming directly to them.
Then it changed. Not for the best in some cases.

petra Mon 02-Sept-24 19:11:04

Skybluee
A landlord can refuse a tenancy as income and employment status are not protected characteristics.

Casdon Mon 02-Sept-24 19:10:58

It’s illegal to discriminate against people on benefits, but it’s easy for landlords to circumnavigate that by setting the rent for their property above the local housing allowance rate for benefits claimants.
I don’t think there is any excuse for any landlord to rent uninhabitable housing to anybody, they have a responsibility to make sure it is up to standard, whether they use an agency or not. The landlord’s beef is with the agency if they are paying them and find they aren’t doing their job properly.

Doodledog Mon 02-Sept-24 19:06:35

AR is on the case, apparently. People will be complaining when houses are built in their line of vision and spoiling the view, though.

Cossy Mon 02-Sept-24 18:58:58

Skybluee

He says he doesn't take tenants on benefits but I thought that was now illegal?

I don't think either that anything can be done about slum landlords until there's better alternatives for people. I think the only way to stop slum housing is having more council homes.

Absolutely!

Cossy Mon 02-Sept-24 18:58:05

Doodledog

As parliament hasn't been sitting, there hasn't been much opportunity for howls of outrage. KS was on the News saying that it was unacceptable, whichever party he is from. Much as people have been saying on here, really.

The defence is that the flats were managed by an agency. I'm not at all convinced that this gets him off the hook, though.

No it doesn’t (imo)

There’s been a few bits on the news today, including photos showing workman going in to rectify all of this.

This MP has clearly either not checked what the management agent was doing (or not doing) or he’s lying!

At the very least, he should be suspended, investigated and if he’s believed then he should public apologise in parliament, in addition, he should check his other properties.

None of this sits comfortably with me!