Conservatives Party Leadership Race

Casdon

Perhaps you should consider this perspective biglouis and fancythat.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9v8272vkxpo
Also bear in mind this is not a big elephant in the room (135,000 since 2018), it’s a baby elephant compared with the million times larger elephant of controlled migration, if you are concerned about the population growth.

It is not people that are needed for their skills, or if say people marry others from abroad that concern me.
Nor students if they are not abusing the system.

As I always say, immigration worked perfectly fine up until about 1994, when it was changed for some reason.

Wyllow3

Personally I think the topic under discussion - The damning Grenfell Towers report - much more newsworthy than this amusing blip.

Well maybe best not to comment on it!

Of course it matters not compared with the subject of this thread

It’s a temporary issue, does anybody know the last time the former PM became the leader of the opposition after an election? I do feel for Rishi Sunak, it must be very hard to be in that position.

Personally I think the topic under discussion - The damning Grenfell Towers report - much more newsworthy than this amusing blip.

He did say it 5 times!

And he certainly didn't correct himself after each occasion

I thought it was just amusing and he made a joke of it
www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/ckkgrw3lwp1o

but of course much is being made of it patronisingly.

Well who ever is elected hope this helps poor Keir Starmer he still refers to Rishi Sunak as PM. He did seem a little confused at yesterday PMQs

Yes, that must be it Freya5, they are all lying. Not. Good grief.

The BBC don't have an "its all good" brief on immigration at all. They report the numbers and facts. I'd like to see any BBC article that reports "its all good" if you can produce one?

Casdon

Perhaps you should consider this perspective biglouis and fancythat.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9v8272vkxpo
Also bear in mind this is not a big elephant in the room (135,000 since 2018), it’s a baby elephant compared with the million times larger elephant of controlled migration, if you are concerned about the population growth.

Don't believe all at the BBC say. They have an agenda re immigration, it's all good.
At least with legal migration, too much of that also, you know who, where from, and why they are coming into the country, wouldn't you say. For how long they are legally able to stay.
We give enough money to France as it is.
The open borders across Europe are the problem
Perhaps they should employ fitter younger Gendarmes to patrol those beaches, the ones ambling after the migrants yesterday were pathetic, I could run faster, and that's saying a lot!!!!

Thank you, Casdon

And yes, Rory's hedgehog speech can be found on YouTube, Maybee70.
I'm a lover of hedgehogs we've had 3 living in our garden for a good few years now. Lovely little creatures.

Goodness, deleted posts always get me so curious!

I think he’s saying that the UK should fully finance the fight in France to prevent migration to the UK Wyllow3, as it’s costing the French authorities so much.

I was interested Casdon in what was meant by this in the article (in practical terms)

"Darmanin called, as he has done many times, for a new migrant treaty between Britain and the European Union."

Perhaps you should consider this perspective biglouis and fancythat.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9v8272vkxpo
Also bear in mind this is not a big elephant in the room (135,000 since 2018), it’s a baby elephant compared with the million times larger elephant of controlled migration, if you are concerned about the population growth.

You can have a word with me too, Babs03.

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Rekarie

I liked Rory's speech in the House of Commons any hedgehogs

I haven’t heard it but I want to. It’s the most listened to parliamentary speech ever, isn’t it? I’ll try to find a link.

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Rekarie

Yes what exactly is far right

It appears to be very popular and is being thrown about far too often.

Simple explanation from Huffington Post.
www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/roanna-carletontaylor/what-exactly-do-we-mean-b_b_17393486.html
It’s easy to relate the guiding principles to the current parties.

About, not any.

I liked Rory's speech in the House of Commons any hedgehogs

Yes what exactly is far right

It appears to be very popular and is being thrown about far too often.

I liked and still like Rory.

Imo if they had any sense they’d choose Mel Stride who, as a lifelong Labour voter I don’t dislike in much the same way that I always rather liked Cameron and Major. I can’t get over Jenrick removing that mural for children and I think Badenoch is just plain nasty. She didn’t do her homework when she was up against Rayner the other day. Cleverly goes on about his experience in government but that’s only because, along with all the previous cabinet members in his party he had experience of so many departments because if the musical chairs that government because. And I’ll never forgive him for what he said about Stockton. To think they could have had Rory Stewart.