Renters rights

Allira My grandson only just got into Halls for his first year and had friends that didn't make it. None had to live that far away though!

Rosie51

I see Allira had made the point about halls of residence already, I didn't refresh the page before typing.

That's OK!

A couple of years ago, students studying at a university near here were sent to accommodation nearly 30 miles away because there was insufficient for all of the first year students.
Not a good experience for first years.

I agree with Mollygo and Ilovedogs22. Everyone should have the right to safe, warm, affordable shelter. We need to get back to houses being somewhere for people to live, rather than an investment or "get rich quick" scheme. As I see it, the only way forward is a huge scale social house building scheme.

I see Allira had made the point about halls of residence already, I didn't refresh the page before typing.

growstuff

Rosie51

Somebody has to own the house in order for it to be available to be rented. Not everyone can or wants to buy a house. Where do you think students are going to live if there are no houses available to rent?
I don't own any property to rent out, just for clarity.

In university-owned accommodation maybe.

How many universities own enough accommodation to house every student? Certainly with my own children, nephews and nieces and a grandson, none have been able to secure university owned accommodation beyond the first year.
What about non-university people, where should they find a place to rent? There isn't enough social housing for all, so private rentals are required.

Well it's a good job that some have bought property to let out with the shortage of social housing.

Ilovedogs22

I'm not sure I agree with people buying- up property to rent out! When we were selling our little terrace a while ago a load of nun's came a calling, wanting to potentially buy said house to rent -out to the university students up the road. It just seemed odd / un-christian even, to want to make money out of people's basic human need for shelter. 🤔

The student weren't going to buy it because they would only be there for a short time and they wouldn't have any money anyway.

The students needed somewhere to live whilst they are studying; Halls of Residence are often only available to first year students.

As people have a basic human need for shelter what did you do?

Friends bought a house on a loan because they knew they would not have pensions apart from the State Pension. They rented it to their DD until she moved away, then rented it out to someone they knew through work who was desperate for accommodation. He wrecked the place. They had trouble getting him out and the cost of repairs was enormous.
Now they rent it through an agency but the red tape and bureaucracy, not to mention the cost of the agent, makes them wonder if it is worthwhile.

Ilovedogs22

I'm not sure I agree with people buying- up property to rent out! When we were selling our little terrace a while ago a load of nun's came a calling, wanting to potentially buy said house to rent -out to the university students up the road. It just seemed odd / un-christian even, to want to make money out of people's basic human need for shelter. 🤔

The "church" has always owned property.

Rosie51

Somebody has to own the house in order for it to be available to be rented. Not everyone can or wants to buy a house. Where do you think students are going to live if there are no houses available to rent?
I don't own any property to rent out, just for clarity.

In university-owned accommodation maybe.

Somebody has to own the house in order for it to be available to be rented. Not everyone can or wants to buy a house. Where do you think students are going to live if there are no houses available to rent?
I don't own any property to rent out, just for clarity.

I'm not sure I agree with people buying- up property to rent out! When we were selling our little terrace a while ago a load of nun's came a calling, wanting to potentially buy said house to rent -out to the university students up the road. It just seemed odd / un-christian even, to want to make money out of people's basic human need for shelter. 🤔

Janetashbolt that’s precisely why we’ve have always had rent protection insurance on property we let out.

I am wondering though how much it will cost when it’s up for renewal now we have this Labour government which is heavily weighted in favour of tenants’ rights.

you have to be 3 months in arrears now before landlord can start proceedings, the courts take months during which time arrears continue then they pop into court and say they haven't paid for 10 months because somethings not been fixed and the judge postpones for another 6 months.

Governments and local authorities are interested in keeping up occupancy in privately rented accommodation do they don't have to provide the alternative.

I doubt any future legislation will be fair or just to both landlords and tenants. It's clear there are both awful tenants and landlords. Governments are interested in keeping up occupancy and reducing headline complaints from renters so I think any legislation will favour tenants.

I also had a gormless tenant, although he was old enough to know better than iron something on the floor, not on an ironing board and left a wedge shaped iron impression burnt into the middle of a fairly new carpet. It caused much mirth when he admitted liability with the letting agent, his name was Mr Burns!

I rented a flat out for 5 years and the nearest I got to disaster was two young Irish lads, fresh from home and university, who had never lefted a finger for themselves as 'mammy' nurtured them like little princes. They did no damage deliberately, but did quite a bit because they were so domestically gormless. They did not get their deposits back.

I rented out once, never again, got work in another part of the country, let out my home. All was OK rent wise, all done via an agent. As soon as I wanted to get the house back, 3 months notice, rent stopped being paid, when they eventually left, the kitchen was wrecked, carpets disgusting. Agents took all their money from his deposit leaving me short, and landlords insurance was well lacking in paying out any funds. . So never ever again.

Babs03
We only had 2 sets of tenants who ripped us off. One couple didn’t pay a penny after moving in.
The second set were hot bedding with their co- workers.
Both times we sorted it out ourselves.
Fortunately the properties were mortgage free.

MOnica
My daughter is in the same situation. The tenants have been to court twice now but for some unknown reason the paperwork has been at fault each time. Mmmm 🤷‍♀️

OldFrill I thought we already had no fault evictions.

My friend had a small flat she rented out to supplement her pension, she got a mortgage on it. Within a couple of years a tenant had sublet the flat to a family she didn’t know who changed the locks. They didn’t pay the rent because of course they were paying the person who sublet it to them. A long legal battle began and eventually she was able to evict the tenants with the help of the police. The flat had been totally trashed but seeing as my friend couldn’t afford the mortgage repayments the flat was repossessed so it didn’t even belong to her anymore.
Penalising all landlords is too broad a stroke and will result in landlords selling up and subsequently an even more acute shortage of housing.
My friend lost everything. We need to have some balance here.

M0nica

There is a straigh forward answer to the problem of banning no fault evictions. Only let your property by the year(or more if you wish). The tenant then has to leave aat the end of the year, or whatever and cannot, even now be evicted, not even with Section 23 (no fault) eveiction.

Why do i say this with such conviction,? DD is buying a house (she hopes) , which is currently tenanted. When the house cam on the market the seller didn't mention the tenant, but all be came clear at a viewing. They then said they would issue a No Fault eviction notice, then found they couldn't because the tenant has a contract with a fixed end date of February 2025. and No Fault eviction doesn't apply when there is rental contract with a fixed end date.

DD is hanging on as this is a 'one and only' house for her.

When no fault evictions are introduced there will be no set term leases.

There is a straigh forward answer to the problem of banning no fault evictions. Only let your property by the year(or more if you wish). The tenant then has to leave aat the end of the year, or whatever and cannot, even now be evicted, not even with Section 23 (no fault) eveiction.

Why do i say this with such conviction,? DD is buying a house (she hopes) , which is currently tenanted. When the house cam on the market the seller didn't mention the tenant, but all be came clear at a viewing. They then said they would issue a No Fault eviction notice, then found they couldn't because the tenant has a contract with a fixed end date of February 2025. and No Fault eviction doesn't apply when there is rental contract with a fixed end date.

DD is hanging on as this is a 'one and only' house for her.

Very sadly when I was left a property by a relative, I was about to rent it out ...for some income, and also to give someone a home ...but SADLY when I looked in depth at doing so, no way ...a Landlord would seem to have NO rights whatsoever ....if you die, and the house has to be sold, the tenant can refuse to move out ....no fault evictions are to banned, so what if the landlord NEEDS the house back and has to sell it ...say, for care home fees, etc..... so difficult !