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Sadiq Khan’s latest ^brainwave^

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Wyllow3 Fri 13-Sept-24 10:23:13

It was the accurate quote of what he said MaizieD from all the MM as
an honest conversation with our constituents about the reasons why people who have offended and come out of prison may need. .......
if you google this sentence you'll see it in the MM - except not the impression the headlines give!

GrannyGravy13 Fri 13-Sept-24 10:21:47

Sadiq Khan said there needs to be an honest discussion

This is clearly shown on the screenshot in my OP!

Nowhere does it or my OP say it is a done deal !

Wyllow3 Fri 13-Sept-24 10:19:34

Its misleading to talk about jumping the queue on family accommodation
When were are actually talking about single homeless men, different accommodation issues entirely.

MaizieD Fri 13-Sept-24 10:14:37

GrannyGravy13

Doodledog why is reporting what the Mayor of London has said at a meeting of the Crime & Justice Commission scarmongering ?

The media presenting it as a done deal is scaremongering.

According to Wyllow it is an idea for discussion. I tend to believe her interpretation over the biased media.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 13-Sept-24 10:10:20

Doodledog why is reporting what the Mayor of London has said at a meeting of the Crime & Justice Commission scarmongering ?

Doodledog Fri 13-Sept-24 10:07:15

More scaremongering in the press that has become accepted as true🙄.

As a principle though, it's tricky. As a student in the 80s I did summer work in a careers office. There was high unemployment and a lot of young people were put on YTS schemes, which were supposed to train them for the jobs that didn't exist. Some were much more valuable than others, as they were known to give actual training, as opposed to sweeping floors etc. We had young people referred by the probation system (I think - they had criminal records or were deemed to be otherwise at risk of criminality) and they were given priority on these schemes. It's hard to argue that young people who had had a poor start shouldn't be given a leg up, and if this resulted in lower crime rates, keeping them off drugs and so on, who could complain? But the 'decent' kids who hadn't done well at school but had stayed out of trouble were always at the back of the queue, and it struck me as unfair. They were up against it too, and getting a head start with a job at that stage could make a difference to the rest of their lives.

This is the same sort of thing. Those who stay on the straight and narrow and try to live a responsible life are always left to their own devices, whilst those who don't are given handouts and help, yet what do we do? Let people starve if they have no money? Go back to notions of 'deserving and 'undeserving'? There is no easy answer.

Wyllow3 Fri 13-Sept-24 09:45:55

He hasn't committed to anything, quotes are actually that he wants to "have an honest conversation about it". (despite the reports in certain papers as a done deal).

In most cities single homeless people and some families are already housed in cheap hotels on a temporary basis. I don't think prisoners should be treated differently but - special needs assessments are made across the board and some prisoners might fall into those categories.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 13-Sept-24 09:26:52

I listened to an interview with a prisoners charity worker and a criminal barrister this morning on this subject.

Whilst I think it is essential for prisoners to have somewhere to live and job interviews arranged on their release.

I do not think they should be given priority over London families who are on the housing waiting list. There are apparently over 300,000 waiting at the moment, the average time on the waiting list is between 5-10 years.

SK as referring to London and outer London, it wasn’t clear if he thought this should be rolled out nationwide.