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Charlie Mullins

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Dinahmo Fri 13-Sept-24 16:57:55

For anyone who has missed the news recently Charlie Mullins has announced that he is leaving the UK. Here's a link to Marina Hyde in the Guardian. Other sources are available.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/sep/13/charlie-mullins-farewell-tour-britain-taxes-multimillionaires

Maggiemaybe Sat 14-Sept-24 14:37:47

Babs03

Well he sounds like the kind of bloke we can do without. Seems nobody has bothered to mention that he once said someone should kill Sadiq Khan. Classy.

Quite a few of us have mentioned it. It doesn’t seem to make a difference to his admirers.

MaizieD Sat 14-Sept-24 13:39:31

An alternative view

What concerns me is the amount of public money he has amassed which he is now intending to take with him.

Unless he has made his fortune earning money from other countries the fact is that it comprises money initially issued by the UK government. By removing it from the country and not paying tax on it he is actually contributing to the UK's deficit as none of it will now return to the Treasury.

I doubt very much if, despite the amount someone quoted as him having paid in tax, he has actually paid as much tax as a percentage of his income/wealth as 'ordinary' people pay through the PAYE system and through indirect taxation. Clever accountants and 'tax planning' usually ensures that the rich have opportunities which are not available to most other taxpayers to minimise the tax they pay.

If he didn't pay his workers a decent wage then his wealth has been made on the back of their exploitation. Just like capitalists through the last couple of centuries. He wasn't providing work in the philanthropical way that it is usually presented "Oh, wealthy people kindly provide people with jobs", he did it out of pure self interest to enrich himself.

One wonders what his charges were like and how he dealt with his suppliers. hmm

Does one regard the money that the government issues for our use, to serve the economy, as a handy source of private enrichment for some or as a public benefit which should provide a reasonable life for all citizens?

Babs03 Sat 14-Sept-24 13:31:55

Well he sounds like the kind of bloke we can do without. Seems nobody has bothered to mention that he once said someone should kill Sadiq Khan. Classy.

Casdon Sat 14-Sept-24 13:22:59

Doodledog

Where are all these attacks on CM?

What I see is yet more opportunities to have a go at the government being snatched, even though the tax rates haven't altered since they were set by the Tories.

It's interesting that those claiming to support him are the ones citing his class, background and accent, and assuming that 'labour supporters' should automatically support someone from his background regardless of his behaviour, or they are somehow being hypocritical.

Personally, as a Labour voter (but not slavish supporter) I couldn't care less about people's backgrounds, and can see no reason why I should.

Quite Doodledog. It’s not an attack to say you abhor somebody who has said that somebody else should be killed, in my world anyway. Multimillionaires are like the rest of us - some are good people who we should be sorry to lose if they decide to leave the UK, some are not, their background is irrelevant.

Doodledog Sat 14-Sept-24 12:17:13

twinnytwin

Doodledog, I hope it is only "ridiculous scaremongering nonsense" but with the start Labour has made and the statement that following the Budget that things are only going to get worse, folk that are able to, are of course preparing themselves so that they can keep their hard-earned money. I'm certainly not wealthy by any means but I'm worried.

I understand that. I don't have millions (if only grin) but what I do have is hard-earned too - not many people have money land in their laps. I am prepared to have a bit less in the short-term if it means that things can be turned round for the future, though. If things continue to decline the way they've been doing the country won't be a good place for the next generations, and IMO it's a good thing that someone is trying to stop the decline.

I like to think that if I did have millions I would feel the same - after all, I'd have more to spare, and my extra taxes would make more of a difference. Either way, we can't have a better country unless we pay for it, and that payment has to come from everyone.

twinnytwin Sat 14-Sept-24 11:46:55

Doodledog, I hope it is only "ridiculous scaremongering nonsense" but with the start Labour has made and the statement that following the Budget that things are only going to get worse, folk that are able to, are of course preparing themselves so that they can keep their hard-earned money. I'm certainly not wealthy by any means but I'm worried.

maddyone Sat 14-Sept-24 11:46:00

As Mrs Merkle said, ‘What does she see in him?’

maddyone Sat 14-Sept-24 11:45:20

Haha, is he really?
This story gets funnier the more it goes on grin

pascal30 Sat 14-Sept-24 11:42:21

He's marrying a 33 year old woman.. I'm not surprised that he is retiring to Spain with her..

Doodledog Sat 14-Sept-24 11:31:47

Where are all these attacks on CM?

What I see is yet more opportunities to have a go at the government being snatched, even though the tax rates haven't altered since they were set by the Tories.

It's interesting that those claiming to support him are the ones citing his class, background and accent, and assuming that 'labour supporters' should automatically support someone from his background regardless of his behaviour, or they are somehow being hypocritical.

Personally, as a Labour voter (but not slavish supporter) I couldn't care less about people's backgrounds, and can see no reason why I should.

Mollygo Sat 14-Sept-24 11:24:37

eazybee

Strange, all these attacks on a self-made working man from Labour supporters.

Very strange, since that’s what LP supporters have been heard to proclaim about Starmer.

M0nica Sat 14-Sept-24 11:24:32

Why?

What has where he comes from or where he has got to do got to do with the Labour party.

Charlie Mullins is a larger than large character who is a successful business man. As a Conservative supporter and person who likes to grab the headlines, it is entirely within character to make a big to do about leaving the country to retire somewhere hot, a decision he must have made a long time ago, even if only doing it now and using it as an excuse to have a pop at the Labour government at the same time.

I m shocked to see Labour party supporters, so avid in their support of equality and level playing fields, showing that actually when the flak hits the fan they are as partisan and partial as so many of those now in power who are being attacked because of what comes across as cronyism and nepotism in government appointments.

maddyone Sat 14-Sept-24 11:14:14

eazybee

Strange, all these attacks on a self-made working man from Labour supporters.

Exactly my thoughts eazybee.

Ilovecheese Sat 14-Sept-24 11:13:34

Why is anyone worried about his employees if he hasn't got any?

maddyone Sat 14-Sept-24 11:13:12

GrannyGravy13

He had a house about 15 minutes from us which was on rightmove a while ago, I just had to have a look…

Hats off to anyone who comes from nowhere and makes their fortune , just goes to show that anything is possible if you reach for the stars.

Good post GG13.

maddyone Sat 14-Sept-24 11:12:26

Thank you for posting the facts re losing/relinquishing your British citizenship if you decide to move abroad GG13.

What a lot of sour grapes being voiced on this thread, about a person who has no impact on any of our lives. It’s his rejection of the new government that appears to be rubbing posters up. Whatever this man is or isn’t, and I have no idea apart from what I saw reported about him yesterday, he’s leaving Britain because he doesn’t want to pay even more taxes than he already pays, in particular he mentioned IHT. Rich people have always left the country under Labour because rightly or wrongly, they see Labour as wishing to tax them more. I don’t care whether he goes or stays, it doesn’t affect me, but if I had a fortune to protect, then I would certainly move abroad. Richard Branson did exactly the same thing, and I don’t recall a thread bashing his decision. Mick Jagger and many others have done this. No comments from GNetters. Additionally many GNetters have moved abroad for their retirement. Do they all deserve pages of condemnation?

GrannyGravy13 Sat 14-Sept-24 11:09:18

He had a house about 15 minutes from us which was on rightmove a while ago, I just had to have a look…

Hats off to anyone who comes from nowhere and makes their fortune , just goes to show that anything is possible if you reach for the stars.

GrannyGravy13 Sat 14-Sept-24 11:06:59

Ilovecheese

How do you export plumbing jobs?

CM sold Pimlico Plumbers for £145 million to Neighborly (owned by a US private equity giant’ three years ago.

He is retired.

eazybee Sat 14-Sept-24 11:05:38

Strange, all these attacks on a self-made working man from Labour supporters.

Ilovecheese Sat 14-Sept-24 10:56:55

How do you export plumbing jobs?

GrannyGravy13 Sat 14-Sept-24 10:50:31

Grantanow

MayBee70

No one seemed bothered that Brexit supporting Dyson moved a lot of his manufacturing to Singapore thus depriving the UK of those jobs. But now someone is doing just that under a Labour government it’s shock horror, what about the workers…shock

Not so. I was concerned that Dyson exported all those jobs.

Just had a quick Google.

James Dyson has approximately 3,500 employees in the U.K.

He paid £156 million in tax to HMRC in the last tax year.

In Singapore he has approximately 1,920 employees of which 560 are engineers or scientists.

Grantanow Sat 14-Sept-24 10:44:05

MayBee70

No one seemed bothered that Brexit supporting Dyson moved a lot of his manufacturing to Singapore thus depriving the UK of those jobs. But now someone is doing just that under a Labour government it’s shock horror, what about the workers…shock

Not so. I was concerned that Dyson exported all those jobs.

GrannyGravy13 Sat 14-Sept-24 10:42:28

mae13

If you're a squillionaire and want to take your money abroad, fine.

But you must relinquish your British Citizenship.

You do not have to relinquish your British Citizenship if you move abroad.

You can if you wish apply to renounce your citizenship, and if it is accepted you will get a Certificate of Renunciation

Freya5 Sat 14-Sept-24 10:31:18

mae13

If you're a squillionaire and want to take your money abroad, fine.

But you must relinquish your British Citizenship.

Why is that. Does that apply to everyone who retires abroad, or just people who have made money.

Wyllow3 Sat 14-Sept-24 10:11:38

Casdon will this do
tellmamauk.org/twitter-suspends-charlie-mullins-for-someone-should-kill-sadiq-khan-tweet/

It gives more details what he actually said, which was very racist.
It has to be quote something for Elon Musk to ban!

What a horrible man, good riddance. Yes, I bet he was headed that way anyway but has an inflated ego and has to score points whatever he does.