Oops! Sir Keir drops a massive 45 points in the opinion polls.

Train drivers for weekends need providing now before people die What was happening yesterday at Preston was unbelievable It was terrifying people fighting to get on trains The drivers don't want to do overtime train some drivers who do

And I'm still stuck on the stats! On none of the country comparisons for debt from the link Casdon provided could I find the UK.

Oreo

Nobody could think that Casdon but what Labour could have done when deciding to pay massive increases in salary to train drivers was to insist they alter some working conditions.
More weekend trains being put on as one of them.To be brought in over the next few months.

Absolutely, it's a public service, as much as the buses are. Drivers on buses are not allowed to work over so many hours, per day, doesn't mean they can't do overtime on another day. Flexible rostering, to include weekend work, for all not just a few, should have been a condition. No they just threw in the massive pay rise, no conditions.

When is Keir Starmer going to put his new glasses on ?As necessary item for MP requiring a donation I'm still waiting to see them The ones he's wearing haven't made me feel at all like voting labour Then Angela Raynor spending so much on personal photographer couldn't she give that to the black hole

Nobody could think that Casdon but what Labour could have done when deciding to pay massive increases in salary to train drivers was to insist they alter some working conditions.
More weekend trains being put on as one of them.To be brought in over the next few months.

A pay deal does not ever mean that drivers can exceed the maximum number of hours they can drive per week, or that they can be forced to work above their contracted hours. Hands up who thinks the Labour government, if any government, could have trained and put in place additional drivers across the rail network in two months?

Thought he had sorted a pay deal with the train drivers?

TakeThat7

I've just spend hours today tying to get home from Blackpool on the train Yet again train after train being cancelled Pretty routine these days and very dangerous part of the journey spent on the one train ruñning a bit of the way and so overcrowded but mums and babies and toddlers risking being crushed Apparently drivers don't want to do overtime When are labour going to do something useful like get new drivers to work weekends

Oh yes indeed, that is all the fault of Labour.

( irony)

There was no milk this morning and I can still smell last night's tea in the house. My sandals are worn out, I can't decide if it's boot weather yet.

I blame Labour.

Mollygo

^ We all know that means nothing in the UK democracy though Mollygo, don’t we?
You can’t blame Labour for being in power when that’s how our democracy works. Governments virtually never govern with a majority of of over 50% do they?^

Absolutely!
I don’t blame Labour for being in power, any more than I blamed Conservatives for being in power.
Labour got into power because we weren’t happy with Conservatives.
Conservatives got back into power because we weren’t happy with Labour.
Now Labour are back in power because we weren’t happy with the Conservatives.

The main difference now is that Governments aren’t happy because we know so much more quickly about what they get wrong. We know about behaviour that is excused by it’s in the rules that will give them extra benefits
and maybe even allow the donors extra benefits.
Add to that the implementation of actions a government condemned when it was proposed by the government they replaced, with the evidence still clearly there on the internet or saved on people’s devices.

And while I dislike percentages being used to prove things like pay rises, a vast majority 1 in 5 or 20% is funny.

I don’t think labour will get in 5 years the way the are behaving at the moment.

TakeThat7

I've just spend hours today tying to get home from Blackpool on the train Yet again train after train being cancelled Pretty routine these days and very dangerous part of the journey spent on the one train ruñning a bit of the way and so overcrowded but mums and babies and toddlers risking being crushed Apparently drivers don't want to do overtime When are labour going to do something useful like get new drivers to work weekends

That's what happens when Gov gives in to the Unions, a pay rise with no conditions. Stinks.

The only good things in No 10 is the cats. Hope they get on. Larry is in cargo obviously but tge new kitten is adorable, can't say the same about its owner.
Of course Keir and co said no to the freebies, the houses must be full. Just why a multi millionaire needs them is beyond me, he must be as tight as a tick. Perhaps some pet firm will donate food for Prince.

Poor cat being used as a political prop.

It’s good to see that Starmer has opted for the James Bond villain look- at least it’s credible. We now know the direction of travel.

Now Sir Keir has a kitten he can always pop up at Prime Ministers' Questions and say "but the kitten ate my homework"......

I've just spend hours today tying to get home from Blackpool on the train Yet again train after train being cancelled Pretty routine these days and very dangerous part of the journey spent on the one train ruñning a bit of the way and so overcrowded but mums and babies and toddlers risking being crushed Apparently drivers don't want to do overtime When are labour going to do something useful like get new drivers to work weekends

I’d be a bit more decisive in my opinion if I was you Gummie there’s no need to sit on the fence you know!

He's a money grabbing, lying, evil, hypocrite and the sooner he and his cronies are gone the better. Sadly we are stuck with him for at least 5 years.

He wasn't voted in my by a massive majority of voters. Our first past the post system does not depict the majority. They actually had fewer votes that the Corbyn era, but fools voted for reform instead of Tory and reduced the Tory vote.

Cossy

ronib

Casdon I think coalition is preferable but…..

I’d love to have had a three way coalition
Lab/Lib/Green

Me too Cossy

TerriBull
You paint a worrying picture of Larry’s future because of Prince.

Seriously TerriBull, as a parent of teenagers were you ever allowed to choose the name of one of your animals yourself? One of our cats ended up being called Monster. Teenagers don’t believe in democratic naming, and certainly not in their father making the decision.

There's a delightful picture in The Sunday Times today of Sir Keir looking debonair in the controversial spectacles along with new addition to the Starmer family household, a kitten called Prince, presumably that moniker being a nod to post election jubilation in the stupendous swing to Labour and Sir Keir "partying like it was 1999", before it all went south when the shit hit the fan the waters became somewhat troubled. Now that we are told the freebies have been withdrawn I'm somewhat worried that there might not be an adequate food supply for Prince, and he will have to fight tooth and claw with Larry for a share of his. Lets hope that this won't be the case, Larry as we know doesn't have the benevolent nature of Lord Alli as regards to dishing out favours, probably because there won't be anything in it for him because, well it's not in his nature and he's probably reached that world weary stage of "I'm just sick of the lot of them"

Also partying like it was 1999 was a certain Bridget Philllipson, Education Secretary, who was the recipient of £14,000 bunged her way for her 40th, by err. who was that again? oh yes the omnipresent ever benevolent Lord Alli. Well hopefully that should have paid for a few canapes a whole pile of iced party rings not forgetting a glass or two of Bollinger to wash it all down with. Well you know how it is, as expressed so eloquently by Frank in Shameless they know how to party Anyway, it was all quite acceptable, we're reliably informed, because very important people were there allegedly, such as Peter "you'll find me relaxing on my friend the oligarch's yacht with George Osborne" Mandelson.
I

think many of us will celebrate the fact that philanthropy is alive and in Lord Alli who is doing his utmost in giving a generous helping hand to the needy. Although I was rather baffled to read in The Guardian a couple of days ago, that when asked about him some Labour aides had just the one word to describe him and according to that article it was too rude to print in their esteemed publication. Whatever can they mean

Sorry wrong thread

I have my stack of candles ready now Freya5

RosiesMaw2

This should sort it

KS might be up in the polls if he had put some ink on the cats paw and let him wander over that paperwork.
We would probably all end up better off 🤣

Cossy

ronib

Casdon I think coalition is preferable but…..

I’d love to have had a three way coalition
Lab/Lib/Green

Lord help us if that ever happens. We'd all be reading by candlelight.