Sue Grey has resigned

Nothing odd about it.It’s just what’s happened.

Ah well, makes a change of 14 years of criticism of the Tories I suppose.

Allira

Is there an unwritten rule somewhere?

Mustn't mention anything untoward about the Labour Government on GN.

Must remember.

No rule, it’s just odd.

Is there an unwritten rule somewhere?

Mustn't mention anything untoward about the Labour Government on GN.

Must remember.

Allira

Casdon

This isn’t new news Allira? Surely disillusionment is about things people didn’t know about before the election, not things that were already in the public domain?

I didn't know that until I was told at the weekend.

So it was new news.

It’s odd that when you had left a role 10 years before, when you weren’t an MP, you are accused of hypocrisy 10 years later when you are, because you vote differently on something that was a benefit to you 10 years before. It’s reported on at the time so people are aware of it anyway, and then somebody brings it up as a criticism because it’s new to them. But Hey Ho, I just hope the next PM is a saint in every respect.

Freya5

IOMGran

Ladyleftfieldlover

This is all very Daily Mail ish!

Yup, all the Tory/Reform Grans are out in force. There are other Grans here too though thank goodness.

The Labour, and hard left grans, you mean defending their lord and master. For goodness sakes, we are allowed to disagree with you, even criticise the hypocrite we now have as a PM. after all you were all very good at chucking muck at the Tories. Who are after all not in Gov anymore, so why bring them into it.No it's tit for tat like schoolkids.

That's an uncalled for comment, IOMGran because if some Tory voters hadn't switched to vote for Labour they would not have won the election.

Lib Dems may have switched allegiance, too, as I did, to make sure the oh-so-decent Labour candidate here got voted in .

So many who voted Labour are becoming disillusioned as are the Trades Unions.

Casdon

This isn’t new news Allira? Surely disillusionment is about things people didn’t know about before the election, not things that were already in the public domain?

I didn't know that until I was told at the weekend.

So it was new news.

IOMGran

Ladyleftfieldlover

This is all very Daily Mail ish!

Yup, all the Tory/Reform Grans are out in force. There are other Grans here too though thank goodness.

The Labour, and hard left grans, you mean defending their lord and master. For goodness sakes, we are allowed to disagree with you, even criticise the hypocrite we now have as a PM. after all you were all very good at chucking muck at the Tories. Who are after all not in Gov anymore, so why bring them into it.No it's tit for tat like schoolkids.

This isn’t new news Allira? Surely disillusionment is about things people didn’t know about before the election, not things that were already in the public domain?

I was also told recently by a financial expert that Keir Starmer may have benefited from a tax-exempt pension deal from the time when he was DPP. However, he criticised measures in the 2023 Budget which scrapped the £1m cap on lifetime pensions savings.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-65037136

Disillusionment is setting in ☹

Nancat

As Sue Gray is 66, she's due for retirement anyway, so whatever the reduction in salary, it will still be a nice little top-up for her state pension and mammoth civil service pension.

Is there a limit on Civil Service pensions?

If she has the full 40 years service then she should receive half her annual pay as pension per annum.
Not bad.

As Sue Gray is 66, she's due for retirement anyway, so whatever the reduction in salary, it will still be a nice little top-up for her state pension and mammoth civil service pension.

It’s part time, and according to the press (Telegraph, Express etc.) she will have a £170k pay cut. Who knows if that is reliable - but it is definitely a part time role.

Namsnanny

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Well she’s been ‘moved across’ to another post.
Same salary?
She’s to coordinate the ‘whole of the UK’. Bet she still has the ear of Keir Starmer.
They must think were easily fooled.

They do

They really do and voters are fooled

The majority are sheep that believe whatever is printed in the popular press. A few disbelieve everything that any polititian says.
Which leaves a small proportion that actually make a reasoned judgement.

Yes, I am cynical!.

If you actually read the Guardian, please just take the article I referenced above on the Sue Gray matter: they are far from easy going on Labour, they give critical quotes - but they don't indulge in red top headlines. Neither does the Independent, or the Times or the FT, but unfortunately now in these days of paywalls its hard to find whole sources to quote unless you join.

btw, every morning you can see on BBC I player news each newspapers front pages.

As opposed to Guardianish? The njoly grail.

Couldn't care less!

Couldn't care less

KS must feel like he’s trawling through mud at the moment but with the Conservative leadership election it looks as though he’ll be running the country for at least 10 years. Great stuff.

Jane 43 , I think you must be in a lucky position , I know of many people who will not turn heating on because of the fear of getting into debt . If you are on purely the state pension it is so important to receive the wfa

GrannyGravy13

I used the Morning Star article because it is not behind a paywall.

There are plenty of pieces online if you ask Google…

Nowt wrong wi' t'Morning Star, GG13. It's just not telling the whole story about something that happened 4 years ago.

If you look back at the Electoral Commission records I think you'll find that most of the parties and campaign groups registered with them have these lapses from time to time.

Gray is a competent woman - I am sorry things have not worked out for her.
The ‘new’ government has come under pressure from the media who are determined to present them in negative light. How long did the Johnson furnishing saga last? In addition to other instances of corruption? Over in a flash.
Starmer and co continue to be in the media spotlight over activities which are considered ‘normal’ in government- as Cleverly admits (The morality of perks for MPs remains an argument for another day).
Labour are not handling the situation well and their communication office needs overhaul. If only Alistair Cameron were available.

She has the same menacing, snarling face as that despicable Dominic Cummings. Are they related?

Pity Reeeves won't follow

pascal30

Glenfinnan

Saw on a political forum this week that Chancellor may change her mind on pensioners winter fuel payments… just to improve Labours ratings!

It's certainly a very unpopular new policy.. they'd be very unwise to implement it..

It’s already been implemented, I’d be amazed if they go back on it.