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Sara Sharif

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Grandmaofone Mon 14-Oct-24 18:54:51

made me sob - and I’m tough

Iam64 Fri 22-Nov-24 21:53:37

I’ve been reading some of the trial reports in the press. I’m beyond shocked and horrified about the torture, terror, abuse and fear this child endured before her body and soul finally gave up.

The 3 adults continue to blame each other. I’m not hang and flog em but, I don’t see why all 3 shouldn’t be held at his majesties pleasure until they die

maddyfour Thu 17-Oct-24 17:35:40

It’s not surprising that she had internal injuries given the extent of the obvious, physical injuries. That poor child, words fail me.

why was her mother not awarded custody?

I doubt we’ll ever know as Family Court judgements are private, and never open to the public. I do hope the judge concerned is called to give an account of him/herself with regard to this case. I doubt that will happen though, but I will make enquiries of someone I know who will know.

Allira Thu 17-Oct-24 14:50:21

She had internal injuries too, it was reported yesterday.
How, who?

Allira Thu 17-Oct-24 14:49:32

Aveline

Oh God. That poor wee thing. What a desperately miserable life she must have led.

She must have spent the last years of her short life in desperate pain and terrified.

Poor little girl, why was her mother not awarded custody?

Delila Thu 17-Oct-24 14:19:12

I hope all three are sentenced to whole life without parole. I’m not comfortable saying this, but it would be gratifying to think that even if they are kept in solitary conditions to protect them from other inmates, prison officers might occasionally turn a blind eye.

Aveline Thu 17-Oct-24 14:09:34

Oh God. That poor wee thing. What a desperately miserable life she must have led.

eazybee Thu 17-Oct-24 12:49:51

I gather she refused to take a 'bite test' to match the bite marks on the child's body. Neither of the men's teeth matched.
God, what an awful thing to write.)

Allira Thu 17-Oct-24 12:38:08

eazybee

A child was tortured then murdered while two other adults in the house were aware, stood by and took no steps to prevent it. Those three adults are the ones responsible for the murder.

People do voice their suspicions, people do investigate, much time and money is spent, and they are fobbed off time and time again by manipulative parents and the mantra that the family bond must be supported above all else.

So easy to say what you would do when you are not there.

A child was tortured then murdered while two other adults in the house were aware, stood by and took no steps to prevent it.

The other two adults have been charged with murder too. Evidence has been presented to the court consistent with the step mother having inflicted injuries too.

Ilovecheese Thu 17-Oct-24 12:32:28

Family court judges can be manipulated by seemingly charming evil men.

maddyfour Thu 17-Oct-24 12:06:08

Family Court judges make difficult calls all the time (I know one, so I know this.)

But they must take responsibility for their judgment if it goes catastrophically wrong, as it did in this case. This judge apparently believed this little girl would be better off, safer, in the care of a man who tortured her to death. Whilst we can’t ever know the reasons why he/she made such a decision, it would be nice to know that the judge was answering to some sort of authority as to why this decision was made. With such a decision having been made, is this person’s judgment sound?

eazybee Thu 17-Oct-24 11:56:45

A child was tortured then murdered while two other adults in the house were aware, stood by and took no steps to prevent it. Those three adults are the ones responsible for the murder.

People do voice their suspicions, people do investigate, much time and money is spent, and they are fobbed off time and time again by manipulative parents and the mantra that the family bond must be supported above all else.

So easy to say what you would do when you are not there.

maddyfour Thu 17-Oct-24 11:49:27

Of course we can’t Wyllow. Did I say we should? Family Court judgements are confidential.
However that does not in any way negate the fact that a judge who makes a judgment which has such catastrophic consequences should be called to account. Of course it would be confidential just as all Family Court judgments are confidential.

Wyllow3 Thu 17-Oct-24 11:34:51

We can't know without more information why the judge made the decision as to the fitness of the birth mother?

maddyfour Thu 17-Oct-24 11:10:30

I do think when judgements are made that result in a child being moved from one home to another, which subsequently results in the death of that child, that the judge who made the judgment should be called to account.

Allira Thu 17-Oct-24 11:09:25

I agree Family Courts seem to make some very wrong decisions Elusivebutterfly although the identity of the children should always be protected.

MissAdventure Thu 17-Oct-24 11:09:15

David49

How could such evil exist.?.

It was reported the neighbours heard the screams, if I was a neighbour I could not has stood by and done nothing, I would have broken the door down if needed.

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Elusivebutterfly Thu 17-Oct-24 11:06:22

I would lay part of the blame for this horrific murder on the Family Courts. You hear stories of the Court awarding custody to abusive men despite the mother being a good mother. These men appear to lie and manipulate and blame parental alienation by the mother on the child's unwillingness to visit the father.
The law should be changed to allow the Court records to be opened in cases like this.

Allira Thu 17-Oct-24 11:00:06

How could such evil exist.?.

In 21st century Britain?

Sadly, all too often it seems.
Why?

Overworked, inexperienced social workers?
Teachers frightened to report suspicions for whatever reason?
Home schooling? I'm sure very good in many cases but it needs more supervision as in some cases it is a cover-up for neglect and abuse and children are allowed to slip through the net.
Judges trying to be politically correct or persuaded by manipulative parents?

Whatever is wrong, perhaps all children should attend school. No-one should be afraid to voice their suspicions and no-one afraid to investigate, for the sake of vulnerable children.

Allira Thu 17-Oct-24 10:52:56

What about the older brother?
Was he frightened , threatened, or did he accept this as the norm? I hope those other children can overcome their life in that house of horrors.

David49 Thu 17-Oct-24 10:52:16

How could such evil exist.?.

It was reported the neighbours heard the screams, if I was a neighbour I could not has stood by and done nothing, I would have broken the door down if needed.

eazybee Thu 17-Oct-24 10:50:57

At the moment we only know the horrifying catalogue of Sara's injuries; I wonder how many of them were inflicted during the period she was 'home-schooled.'?
My belief, based on that photograph of an apparently cheerful, happy little girl, dressed and made-up as an adult, is that she was being groomed for the marriage market but until the evidence is heard from the three defendants this is only speculation.
I doubt whether all three will be given equally long sentences but they must all have known what was happening and who was perpetrating it. The stepmother certainly did, witness texts to her sister, so she is equally guilty.

MissAdventure Thu 17-Oct-24 10:47:51

I watched something a while back, where a little girl was taken from her grandparents care and given back to her real mum and her boyfriend.

The granddad wrote to the judge, saying that he hoped she was comfortable in her decision, because he knew it was the wrong one.

Of course the little mite was abused to death, and he has received not even so much as an acknowledgement of his letter.

Watching him sob was one of the saddest things I've ever seen.

Allira Thu 17-Oct-24 10:43:55

It wasn't the mother, it was the step-mother and uncle.
And father of course.

Allira Thu 17-Oct-24 10:43:13

TheWeirdo

She was a gorgeous looking babe, I'd love to see the death penalty brought in for ''parents'' like those 2 bags of filth.

It wasn't the mother, it was the step-mother and uncle.

The mother lost custody.
The judge who awarded custody to the father should be brought to court and made to answer questions.

MissAdventure Thu 17-Oct-24 10:42:08

I agree.
For them to live with constant fear would do me, although logically I know that's awful.
For a full life, too.