Should we really be doing this?

I didn’t know about Liz Truss, but I did know about Farage (hard not to know.) Anyway I had no truck with that either, they shouldn’t be supporting Trump (for God’s sake, Trump!!!)

The thing with this is that it’s 100 people going, one of whom is an MP, a woman, but I’ve forgotten her name. Posters were quite rightly outraged about Farage going over to support Trump, particularly after he became an MP. I remember the questions, who was looking after constituents and doing his surgeries? Quite right to ask those questions. So the same applies to this female MP who has gone (or is going) now.

No serving MP should abandon their constituency to interfere in another country’s election. To put it bluntly, it’s not their business. Their constituency is their business. As for the other 99 people, presumably party members, they should not be going under the Labour Party banner simply because our government is Labour. It would be the same for any other government we had. Our government is supposed to be non partisan with regards to the governments of other countries, so that we can work with other countries diplomatically. Is this not impossible if our government has made clear that it is partisan?

To be fair now I think about it wasnt Lammy involved in Obama's campaign, I may have imagined this, but it rings a bell.

I wasn't happy with Liz Truss going to the republican rallies either, nor Farage supporting Trump. So I think it's morally dubious.

Galaxy

It's not about the rights of wrongs of the cause. If you approve of it you would have to be happy with for example the Tories going to support Trump.

Which of course they have already done. Who knows if high profile Tories speaking at the national Republican convention has more or less influence on voters than 100 foot soldiers? I don’t pretend to, I just wish they would all stop.

It's not about the rights of wrongs of the cause. If you approve of it you would have to be happy with for example the Tories going to support Trump.

Starmer is setting himself up for a big fall if Trump wins.. but I really support Kamala Harris so maybe it's worth it..

Aveline

I'd go. No expenses required in such a good cause

Same here.

A huge difference with open canvassing and secret, underhand interfering (as from Russia and possibly Trump and others).

winterwhite

I think extraordinary and very wrong. Any chance the source has got hold of the wrong end of some stick?

Doesn’t look like it sadly! In Telegraph, Daily Mail and Express

mynbc15.com/news/nation-world/british-labour-party-sending-staff-to-campaign-for-harris-in-us-swing-states-united-kingdom-uk-left-leaning-kamala-harris-2024-election-democratic-party-north-carolina-pennsylvania

I think extraordinary and very wrong. Any chance the source has got hold of the wrong end of some stick?

maddyfour

Iam64 obviously using funds from the Labour Party is a very different matter than using taxation. If the LP want to use funds that way, it’s up to them.

However, that still leaves the question of interference in elections in other countries. I’m no fan of Trump, absolutely 100% not, but given our own objections to foreign interference in our elections, it’s really not something we should be getting mixed up in, in my opinion. Leave other countries to sort out their own elections and do not interfere. That is my opinion.

I wholeheartedly agree

What?? I’ve heard nothing of this?

Aveline

I'd go. No expenses required in such a good cause

That’s fine as you’re a private citizen not a member of the LP and close to our government.
I think it’s shocking to interfere so publicly and it may well bite this govt on the bum if Harris doesn’t win.

maddyfour

Iam64 obviously using funds from the Labour Party is a very different matter than using taxation. If the LP want to use funds that way, it’s up to them.

However, that still leaves the question of interference in elections in other countries. I’m no fan of Trump, absolutely 100% not, but given our own objections to foreign interference in our elections, it’s really not something we should be getting mixed up in, in my opinion. Leave other countries to sort out their own elections and do not interfere. That is my opinion.

I totally agree and apart from anything else what if DT wins and he knows our present government actively campaigned against him?

No I don't think it's ok.

If I found Americans canvassing for any political party before a general election of ours, I’d be livid. Let them stick to their own messy politics.
I seem to recall Barack Obama kindly telling us how we ought to vote in the Brexit referendum. IMO he should have minded his own business, too.

You posted that taxpayers money would be used, not the OP maddyfour, that’s why I asked you to share your source. That is not unreasonable, surely?

I'd go. No expenses required in such a good cause

I agree GrannyGravy.
I would be absolutely fuming alongside you if Republican Loyalists (or Democrats) were to come to the UK and interfere in our elections.

That type of assistance in the US is not welcome and Harris should discourage it. She will be made a laughing stock about it. Never okay to jump in to a foreign nation's election. Have they gone bonkers? Terrible leadership on this one.

Iam64 obviously using funds from the Labour Party is a very different matter than using taxation. If the LP want to use funds that way, it’s up to them.

However, that still leaves the question of interference in elections in other countries. I’m no fan of Trump, absolutely 100% not, but given our own objections to foreign interference in our elections, it’s really not something we should be getting mixed up in, in my opinion. Leave other countries to sort out their own elections and do not interfere. That is my opinion.

Well said, @Iam64....!

Iam64

Well as a LP member, I’m happy for my subs to be used to support Kamala.
All that needs for evil to triumph is for good to stand by saying, nothing to do with me

I have just posted on another thread.

would you be happy if Republican loyalists were to come here and canvas/campaign for the Conservatives in the next U.K. GE. ?

I 100% would be fuming, no foreign help for elections no way Jose!

I heard it, but you could ask the OP for a link if you’d like one Casdon. I’m not the OP.

I’m pleased you imagine that the Labour Party are funding it. Let’s hope you’re right!

Well as a LP member, I’m happy for my subs to be used to support Kamala.
All that needs for evil to triumph is for good to stand by saying, nothing to do with me