I do wish Keir Starmer would stop talking about ‘working people’!

Wyllow3

buffyfly9

Thank you for steering me towards Liz Cundy, a woman I have never heard of or actually seen! Whilst I cannot remember the name of the person who made the statement I can assure you it was not her.

It was.

www.gbnews.com/politics/keir-starmer-worst-prime-minister-disgusting-winter-fuel-cuts

As in

Discussing the cuts on GB News, commentator Lizzie Cundy branded them "disgusting and cruel", warning that Starmer is going to be the "worst Prime Minister we've ever had

John, now Lord Prescott:

His down-to-earth image proved vital to the New Labour project, forming a bridge between the party's grassroots and the new breed of Labour politician at the top of the party.

"We are all middle class now," he said before the 1997 general election, neatly summing up Tony Blair's "big tent" philosophy.

Some are more middle-class than others.

TwiceAsNice

Most of us are working people or have been in the past if retired. I agree that if you have managed to save some money and decide to invest it why should you be taxed again, you worked hard for that money saved it instead of spending it and shoudnt be penalised again.

Anyway he’s a millionaire he’s not working class is he? He will never be cold in winter

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buffyfly9

I do wish someone would advise Starmer how to dress when he represents us on the World stage. He has had thousands of pounds given to him by his "friend" but he looks like a bag of rags in an open necked black shirt, black jacket and black glasses. I wouldn't mind if he had some decent policies and a credible front bench. A journalist said the other day that he will turn out to be the worst PM in the history of this country. God help us as nobody else is going to!

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buffyfly9

Thank you for steering me towards Liz Cundy, a woman I have never heard of or actually seen! Whilst I cannot remember the name of the person who made the statement I can assure you it was not her.

It was.

www.gbnews.com/politics/keir-starmer-worst-prime-minister-disgusting-winter-fuel-cuts

Thank you for steering me towards Liz Cundy, a woman I have never heard of or actually seen! Whilst I cannot remember the name of the person who made the statement I can assure you it was not her.

Most of us are working people or have been in the past if retired. I agree that if you have managed to save some money and decide to invest it why should you be taxed again, you worked hard for that money saved it instead of spending it and shoudnt be penalised again.

Anyway he’s a millionaire he’s not working class is he? He will never be cold in winter

Mollygo

MayBee70

If only people like Beth Rigby et al had been so interrogational and forensic about every word Conservative MP’s have uttered over the past 14 years . Especially regarding Brexit…

And if Only all those people had got off their rear end and bothered to vote, we might not have had Brexit.
Over a million people who didn’t bother, contributed to Brexit.

How do you know that the million people who didn't bother to vote, would have voted to Remain??

I wish I could tell you who the journalist was but I watch so many " talking heads" that I cannot remember. Yes, Liz Truss was a disaster but her tenure was a few days, not potentially five years!! I suspect Tarot readings, runes and the occasional seance is all we have available to discern what his policies actually are.

Witzend

I’m pretty sure dh has paid a cheque in by means of a screenshot of it, and online banking.
Or did I imagine that??

No you didn’t.
School always pays me by cheque if I’ve bought something when the school credit card isn’t available, and that’s how I pay them in.

Chocolatelovinggran

bufflyfly, may I ask the name of the journalist who predicts that Mr Starmer will " go down in history as the worst PM"?
I would like to email/ write to him/ her to discuss how s/he knows what he will do in the next five years: tarot readings perhaps, or maybe rune casting?
Furthermore I would add just two words to this assumption - Liz Truss, unbeatable in this category, surely.

Look no further Chocolatelovinggran it's a minor press person - who I have never heard of - Lizzy Cundy - backed by a quote from Lee Anderson - commenting in a GB news article.

BTW, I do agree we need clearer definitions than "working people". Its not clear to me and it seems from this thread its not clear to many either.

bufflyfly, may I ask the name of the journalist who predicts that Mr Starmer will " go down in history as the worst PM"?
I would like to email/ write to him/ her to discuss how s/he knows what he will do in the next five years: tarot readings perhaps, or maybe rune casting?
Furthermore I would add just two words to this assumption - Liz Truss, unbeatable in this category, surely.

buffyfly9

I do wish someone would advise Starmer how to dress when he represents us on the World stage. He has had thousands of pounds given to him by his "friend" but he looks like a bag of rags in an open necked black shirt, black jacket and black glasses. I wouldn't mind if he had some decent policies and a credible front bench. A journalist said the other day that he will turn out to be the worst PM in the history of this country. God help us as nobody else is going to!

I think he's a pretty good dresser in all the pics I can find. Even the Telegraph thinks the dark shirt a good move for appropriate occasion ..

www.telegraph.co.uk/fashion/style/why-keir-starmers-dark-shirts-smart-decision/

As I said earlier, IF he had any coherent policies he could appear in a dress as far as I'm concerned. In fact that might be appropriate lest anyone has forgotten that this is the man who thought women could have a penis.

I don't care what he dresses like.
Just like those who didn't care what boris wore, presumably.

And that’s not advice from me MissA. Simply an observation.

He should be able to dress well. He’s had enough free, designer clothes from Lord Alli.

Perhaps he should log into gransnet, since that's where the experts are.

They could advise him what to wear, once they've finished with Carol Vorderman.

biglouis

I have a very good customer who insists upon writing cheques. First time it happened I had to ring my bank and ask where to send it. The young woman who answered said she had never seen a cheque! Its a bit of a faff but she spends quite a few hundred pounds at a time so Im not going to turn her away.

I’m pretty sure dh has paid a cheque in by means of a screenshot of it, and online banking.
Or did I imagine that??

I do wish someone would advise Starmer how to dress when he represents us on the World stage. He has had thousands of pounds given to him by his "friend" but he looks like a bag of rags in an open necked black shirt, black jacket and black glasses. I wouldn't mind if he had some decent policies and a credible front bench. A journalist said the other day that he will turn out to be the worst PM in the history of this country. God help us as nobody else is going to!

Most of our banks will no longer accept cheques. Much to the distress of many.

Just a comment about people on high salaries.
A friend was boasting about a forthcoming long weekend abroad for all the partners (solicitors) and their wives 'to use up excess profits, otherwise it will go in tax,'
Another wife has spent the past two months on weekends away, parties when whole houses or hotels have been hired for clients, and a trip abroad as her accountant husband is retiring, all paid for by his firm, again to use up profits rather than pay tax on it. Apparently necessary to retain clients.

Boz

He told Beth Rigby it was someone who, when confronted by a big and unexpected bill, couldn't write a cheque to cover it.
Some impoverished middle-classes couldn't do that, so this argument is a bit unconvincing.
I was struck by his use of the word cheque. I haven't written a cheque in years - it's cards or money transfers. A dated expression. Starmer isn't a money-man I feel.

Frankly, there are very few people suddenly faced with a big bill who could find the money - just like that - , anyway he did not define the value of a 'big unexpected bill' £100? £1,000?, £10,000?

Yet, at the same time as Stramer is making silly statements like this, people are under constant pressure, and being given incentives to save - for their pension, for a deposit on a house, for resilience when 'sudden big bills' come in etc etc.

He is the classsic example of someone trying to have his cake and eat it.

My definition of a working person is someone who has to work to obtain the money they live on, which includes, people on high salaries.

It does not, of course, include many pensioners. We are living on incomes based on the savings and contributions we made in the past.

madalene

If he meant people who pay PAYE are working people, did he mean people who are self employed are not working people?

I was self employed, but never received any payments through the PAYE system.
I went out to work 60 hours a week.

So he can't mean that.