winterwhite I did include social care but perhaps not very clearly?.
Don’t forget that the OP is my shopping list - others of course will be different.
I don’t think anyone thinks you can have Scandinavian type public services without Scandinavian levels of taxation. Many though wld rather pay for their own services as they need
them without the taxation. And the trick will be to make the service improvements visible as the tax increases bite.
Why do you leave out social care Whitewave2. This is the elephant in the room. In a worse state than the NHS and imposs for the NHS to function without it after so much was shunted off into the care service in an attempt to shore up the hospital side. Labour can’t go on much longer holding a telescope to this blind side.
And I’d have liked to see education, education, education given parallel funding to the NHS.
Water pollution is up to regulation of the water companies and shouldn’t affect ‘working people’.
The 50% bus fare increase will be a heavy hit to the just about managing who aren’t all aged 16-20, welcome though that and other increases are.
Direction of travel OK, means of getting there so far uninspiring and disappointing.
Growstuff, how nice for you, but her bus fares along with those for all passengers, were reduced by the Conservatives and will, if the carefully leaked rumours turn out to be true, increase by 50%.
Another example if caring for all?
Mollygo
Improving the life of my DGD will not immediately become apparent when her bus fare becomes £30pw. Easier if you live in an IGO area, but she doesn’t.
I now have a bus pass, so I rarely pay for bus fares now. However, when I did, the fare from my village into town was £3.10, so even with the increase it's cheaper than it was three years ago.
Babs03
Thanks Whitewavemark2 will definitely be tuning in and reading this thread.
I feel trepidation for our own financial situation which isn’t great, and our grown family and GCs.
And public services need more than just a tickle around the edges.
Same here.
fancythat
Lack of diversity?
Biological diversity
Thanks Whitewavemark2 will definitely be tuning in and reading this thread.
I feel trepidation for our own financial situation which isn’t great, and our grown family and GCs.
And public services need more than just a tickle around the edges.
Mollygo
Improving the life of my DGD will not immediately become apparent when her bus fare becomes £30pw. Easier if you live in an IGO area, but she doesn’t.
I quite see your annoyance, and I get that, but at the same time the working young are going to get a massive 16% pay rise which must help a great deal.
It is intended that their hourly rate will eventually catch up with everyone else and the young will no longer be exploited, which is excellent news.
Improving the life of my DGD will not immediately become apparent when her bus fare becomes £30pw. Easier if you live in an IGO area, but she doesn’t.
Thank you for this WWM2. As this is Gransnet, it will be particularly interesting to identify the measures that should improve the lives of our grandchildren, now and in the future.
The adult minimum wage is to rise by 6.7% - a much higher rise than expected.
The 16-20 year old workers will get a massive 16% hourly rise.
Not sure what you mean fancythat? Could you elaborate?
Lack of diversity?
We won’t know too much until we can read tomorrows analysis , but we do know of this government’s intended direction of travel, and whether it meets with our expectations as voters and what we all voted for, which of course changes with each individual.
My vote and expectation was for
First and foremost to save our NHS and crumbling public services.
Second was to address the state of our environment, the polluted seas and rivers, and the lack of diversity.
Next -to address the fact that economic growth has been more or less stagnant since 2010. We need a Keynesian type budget for growth, that is imaginative and forward thinking to produce the revenue to invest in out country.
Personally I have never thought it possible to have this type of successful economy where citizens can be confident of a cradle to grave welfare state, where education is first class, health is free at the point of use and available within a very reasonable time limit, where public services are well run and invested in and care for all in need comes as a right, can be obtained by the tax payer on the cheap. This type of economy must be paid for and we will need to see tax at Scandinavian levels in order to achieve this.
Looking at the state the country is in, we knew in July that this would be a mighty task. Mighty tasks need research/planning and massive effort. They always start painfully slowly but momentum will gather as each year passes and we will gradually see the result of the effort put in to save our country from the ravages of 14 long years of economic blows our public services received.
Of course the right wing media - childlike - is insisting on jam today without spending any of their pocket money, but as wise parents we know that all jam does is rot your teeth. Instant gratification is only for the hard of thinking, the more intelligent know that time is the master.
So now looking back at the few short months Labour has been in government, i am pretty supportive of the direction of travel, and the achievements to date - which probably need listing to remind everyone - but not for this thread.
Some stuff has been announced but I think it best until we begin to see how it fits into the overall picture before we begin to comment.
It looks as if this is going to be a massive budget though - so hold onto your hats!
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