Not sure all is a above board on the Green Energy front under Labour

madalene

What’s France doing to up its game?

If you know people who have worked with EM, you are bound to approve of him.

Other people are allowed to think whatever they like about EM without being called deeply unpleasant or haters.

Sticking a few solar panels in supermarket car parks apparently
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Of course I need to give evidence in court for Mamie as to why I and others don’t rate EM😂
It’s great to be enthusiastic about green energy but there are human considerations to pushing this agenda too far and too quickly.

For clarification, it is the comments I find unpleasant. I have no idea about the people who make them.

On French news this week there was an item about a shelter with solar panels in a cemetery, which divided opinion a bit. Massive amounts of solar panels are still going up in supermarket car parks and motorway services. Continued investment in electric cars for essential workers and in electric charging stations. Encouragement from the local community of communes for planting schemes, recycling and composting.
I make no apology for supporting green technologies..
The people I know who worked with EM have a very positive view of him, I have never met him,, but I trust their judgement.

What’s France doing to up its game?

If you know people who have worked with EM, you are bound to approve of him.

Other people are allowed to think whatever they like about EM without being called deeply unpleasant or haters.

I can only base my opinion on the judgement of people I know who have worked with him on the green agenda over the years.
I think every country has to do what it can; the recent events in Spain (for example) should make everyone want to up their game.

Oreo

Not deeply unpleasant just true! 😄

I look forward to your detailed evidence 😂😂😂

Not deeply unpleasant just true! 😄

Mollygo

^ I have no problem with informed and evidenced criticism.^
Me neither. Where did I miss the evidence that people have hate for Ed Milliband you mentioned.

^but I don't understand the hate for Ed Miliband^

...".Fanatic, zealot, incapable of being rational, doesn't have the slightest idea, incapable of understanding implications for the poor...."
I will settle for deeply unpleasant, totally unevidenced hyperbole if hatred is too strong.
Thanks for coming back to explain GG13. 😊

There’s no hate he may be a nice guy to have a drink with but from what I’ve seen and read about him is obsessed with green energy.Yeah, you may say it’s a good thing but not when he prioritises it with no thought for cash strapped people or gets rid of something here only to have to import it in the rush to declare how wonderful the UK is on this score.What matters is the world wide response and we are a teeny island here.

^ I have no problem with informed and evidenced criticism.^
Me neither. Where did I miss the evidence that people have hate for Ed Milliband you mentioned.

but I don't understand the hate for Ed Miliband

Mollygo

Again with the hatred!! Why do posters equate criticism with hatred?
Of course we need to be working towards climate control.
I’m concerned that, whilst working on our green energy and cleaning up our act in the UK, we don’t increase the use of fossil fuels elsewhere to provide us with the means to boast how green we are.

I have no problem with informed and evidenced criticism.

Mollygo

Again with the hatred!! Why do posters equate criticism with hatred?
Of course we need to be working towards climate control.
I’m concerned that, whilst working on our green energy and cleaning up our act in the UK, we don’t increase the use of fossil fuels elsewhere to provide us with the means to boast how green we are.

That is exactly what is happening.

The U.K. needs energy security first and foremost, phase in green energy alongside, make it affordable to all not ridiculous priced heat pumps etc.

Again with the hatred!! Why do posters equate criticism with hatred?
Of course we need to be working towards climate control.
I’m concerned that, whilst working on our green energy and cleaning up our act in the UK, we don’t increase the use of fossil fuels elsewhere to provide us with the means to boast how green we are.

It appears that I have been duped by misinformation, sorry folks.

This has been debunked on Twitter.
I think it's a non-story.

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This is the board:
www.neso.energy/about/our-people/meet-neso-board?s=09

The Department for Energy Security and Net Zero (DESNZ) commissioned a report to provide independent advice on the pathway towards the 2030 government ambitions.

Here it is:
www.neso.energy/publications/clean-power-2030

Surely he is the best placed to commission it!

He is the titular "owner" because it is a state owned company and he is the Secretary of State. Ed Miliband does not personally run the company, anymore than the SoS for education runs schools or the SoS for Defence runs the armed forces.
The advice is from the people who work for and run the company.

today we have received independent advice from

I will let you read the rest, this is from Ed Milibands X account.

I haven’t got a problem with a GB energy company, I have got a problem with EM saying that he has independent advice from himself…

Oreo

eazybee

His relationship to NESO does not surprise me in the slightest. He is a fanatic, and as such, incapable of considering the subject rationally.

This I agree with.We don’t want fanatics advising and in control on any subject but on the ‘green’ front Madalene is right as he’s a zealot who has a one track way of thinking with no regard to people with not much money.He needs to be reined in.

I am at a loss. Did people not know that he is the Secretary of State for Energy Security and Net Zero? That he was a very successful and much respected SOS at the Department for Energy and Climate Change in the last Labour government and has been involved in the climate change agenda ever since?
The OP contains a Twitter quote which was swiftly debunked on Twitter and the relationship with NESO is clearly explained on here and in the articles.
People may not like the fact that climate change has to be tackled, but I don't understand the hate for Ed Miliband. What policies would posters on here suggest instead?

eazybee

His relationship to NESO does not surprise me in the slightest. He is a fanatic, and as such, incapable of considering the subject rationally.

This I agree with.We don’t want fanatics advising and in control on any subject but on the ‘green’ front Madalene is right as he’s a zealot who has a one track way of thinking with no regard to people with not much money.He needs to be reined in.

madalene

^one active person with significant control^

One person isn’t democratic.
I agree with you Mollygo and OldFrill.

Ed Miliband is the named person because it is a state company and he is the relevant Secretary of State. He is not running the company, there are plenty of other people to do that. I would think many would have moved over from ESO.
You can read about it here.
www.neso.energy/about/our-people

He definitely shouldn’t be in charge, he doesn’t seem to have the slightest idea about how and where our energy is coming from.

one active person with significant control

One person isn’t democratic.
I agree with you Mollygo and OldFrill.

Mollygo

We need to do something I agree. Thanks for the link to the report.

I read this part with interest.
NESO has taken on a new duty to have regard to impacts upon consumers, and consumer behaviour in undertaking its work. Launched on 1 October, its mission is to forge the path to a sustainable future, where everyone has access to clean, reliable and affordable energy.

So far, the clean energy for individuals has been based on extremely expensive methods e.g.
Heat pumps (I was recently quoted around £14,000 for one, not counting any extras by the way of piping or radiator changes)

Solar panels again expensive, and only possible if your roof is suitable. Despite reassurances that all roofs are suitable we have been turned down by more than one firm for reasons like “your roof is not big enough.”
Solar panels currently involve boasting about our green credentials, whilst benefiting from an enormous boost in the use of fossil fuels in countries like China to produce the panels.

EVs - use less fossil fuels, but are beyond the reach of many people regardless of questions about the mining of resources to produce the batteries.

Hence my interest in their aim for
everyone to have ^access to clean, reliable and affordable energy.^

Reaching their aim is by supporting wide scale, national renewable energy, wind turbines in particular. This is why foreign companies are flooding our country picking up grants for renewable infrastructure, decimating our countryside and putting communities at risk from fire and fumes. There is little green about renewable energy.
They are giving grants to a cable manufacturing plant to produce cable to import solar electricity underwater from Morocco, the solar plant there displaced the communities living there- energy self sufficiency? Who are they kidding - actually, it seems most of the population are taken in by this green dream nightmare.

We need to do something I agree. Thanks for the link to the report.

I read this part with interest.
NESO has taken on a new duty to have regard to impacts upon consumers, and consumer behaviour in undertaking its work. Launched on 1 October, its mission is to forge the path to a sustainable future, where everyone has access to clean, reliable and affordable energy.

So far, the clean energy for individuals has been based on extremely expensive methods e.g.
Heat pumps (I was recently quoted around £14,000 for one, not counting any extras by the way of piping or radiator changes)

Solar panels again expensive, and only possible if your roof is suitable. Despite reassurances that all roofs are suitable we have been turned down by more than one firm for reasons like “your roof is not big enough.”
Solar panels currently involve boasting about our green credentials, whilst benefiting from an enormous boost in the use of fossil fuels in countries like China to produce the panels.

EVs - use less fossil fuels, but are beyond the reach of many people regardless of questions about the mining of resources to produce the batteries.

Hence my interest in their aim for
everyone to have access to clean, reliable and affordable energy.

eazybee

His relationship to NESO does not surprise me in the slightest. He is a fanatic, and as such, incapable of considering the subject rationally.

He is the Secretary of State for Energy Security and Net Zero. Whose name would you expect to be there?