The Guardian offers counselling to staff after ‘upsetting’ Trump election result!

Very true should we apply for compensation haha. No we're pensioners we are more likely to get a room at the nick!

Cumbrianmale56

MaizieD

Cumbrianmale56

I can't say I've ever bought The Guardian, too metropolitan middle class lefty for me. I'd sooner buy the Daily Telegraph, which seems to reflect the way I'm going politically,

It takes all sorts, I suppose.

Have you ever read the Guardian?

Once on a train, I found it completely boring.

I'm relieved to learn that your views on the Guardian can be very safely ignored, then...😂

MaizieD

Cumbrianmale56

I can't say I've ever bought The Guardian, too metropolitan middle class lefty for me. I'd sooner buy the Daily Telegraph, which seems to reflect the way I'm going politically,

It takes all sorts, I suppose.

Have you ever read the Guardian?

Once on a train, I found it completely boring.

Cumbrianmale56

I can't say I've ever bought The Guardian, too metropolitan middle class lefty for me. I'd sooner buy the Daily Telegraph, which seems to reflect the way I'm going politically,

It takes all sorts, I suppose.

Have you ever read the Guardian?

I can't say I've ever bought The Guardian, too metropolitan middle class lefty for me. I'd sooner buy the Daily Telegraph, which seems to reflect the way I'm going politically,

M0nica

DD and a friend go over to the west central US every few years for a holiday that always ends up in Las Vegas, but driving around the states inland from California, which rarely see foreign tourists, in one place, asked where they from - Great britain, England to be precise. The local congratulated them on speaking such good English.

MOnica, when mr i was travelling in rural America he was asked if they taught his accent in school

DD and a friend go over to the west central US every few years for a holiday that always ends up in Las Vegas, but driving around the states inland from California, which rarely see foreign tourists, in one place, asked where they from - Great britain, England to be precise. The local congratulated them on speaking such good English.

M0nica

The biggest mistake we make is assume that we share any cultural or philosophical attitudes with the Americans.

Culturally we share far more with European countries than with the US. We no moreunderstand the cultural forces that shape Americans than we understand those that shape the Chinese.

Yes I think you are right. We really have issues with the ‘gun culture’,too but they see it as part and parcel of being American. Not all, of course and not all voted for Trump. Yes I think the Baptists are very anti abortion but it is more than this. I think ( don’t know, though) that they see Trump as a traditionalist who will support their thinking and way of life. Harris wouldn’t fit the bill in that sense.

The biggest mistake we make is assume that we share any cultural or philosophical attitudes with the Americans.

Culturally we share far more with European countries than with the US. We no moreunderstand the cultural forces that shape Americans than we understand those that shape the Chinese.

nanna8

I have quite a few Baptist friends in America who all supported Trump. They are not stupid people and they are not extremists. Most of them are professional people, some involved with university education. They have a different mindset from us, very different . I don’t particularly like Trump, personally but I respect their choice and realise they are a lot more informed, being US citizens, than I am. Nothing is ever simple in this world.

I would assume your Baptist friends will be against abortion which would make them favour Trump?

I have quite a few Baptist friends in America who all supported Trump. They are not stupid people and they are not extremists. Most of them are professional people, some involved with university education. They have a different mindset from us, very different . I don’t particularly like Trump, personally but I respect their choice and realise they are a lot more informed, being US citizens, than I am. Nothing is ever simple in this world.

What can we do about it? WE will just have to learn to live with it for the next 4 years.

Indeed. But even so, worse than expected.

I think it needs spelling out like this to bring home just how dangerous this administration could be and ask those who support Trump, "Are you serious?".

Why would anyone be surprised or amazed at any of Trump's cabinet, or whatever, appointments. The man is a nutte.

More of a jawdropper is the new president’s choice for Attorney General, the most senior law enforcement officer in the land: Matt Gaetz.

For two years, Gaetz was under federal investigation for child sex trafficking and statutory rape. (No charges were brought.)

Until this week, his fellow members of the House of Representatives were running their own ethics committee inquiry into Gaetz –

handily halted, thanks to his resignation just days before they were about to report

– examining, besides the allegations of underage sexual abuse, accusations that he engaged in illicit drug use, displayed to colleagues, on the floor of the House, nude photos and videos of previous sexual partners, converted campaign funds for personal use and accepted gifts banned under congressional rules.

(guardian news)

Terrific choice for the man who is charged basically with

1. Getting Trump's convictions quashed.
2. Turning the justice system towards politically appointed judges at every level - so they become tools of the State, not serving its people independently. "without fear of favour".

Good to hear from you Gundy. Good luck - this is what freedom and democracy are about👍👏

Hi Gundy, keep up contact and sounds like you are doing all you can.

Wyllow3

Drill baby drill...

Guess who is appointed US energy Secretary?

Yes,

"Trump names fracking executive Chris Wright energy secretary"

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c93qjdjwnxko

"Wright is a climate change sceptic who previously said he does not care where energy comes from, “as long as it is secure, reliable, affordable and betters human lives”.

Oh dear...

Good morning, GN Ladies! Good to hear from you and all opinions. It’s the Freedom of Speech that’s so valuable to a healthy democracy.

Happy to report that the resistance is on the rise, before Trump even takes office in two months.

No one in opposition is going to make the same mistake twice from Trump’s first term. The country-wide effort (rural, urban, suburban, young/old, red state/blue state chapters) is pulling together, whether you are an attorney, civic leader, teacher, college or retirement, professional, media or housewife, white or blue collar, neighbors and book clubs - no one is letting the grass grow under their feet. We will be prepared for the next election cycle in two years which will come around fast… when ALL 500+ Representatives in Congress are up for election along with one-third of all Senators. That could help to reshape things for 2028. (That is IF there will be an election.)

Trump is erratic in his choices, actions and judgement. He lost a number of very qualified people by resignation or firing, which took away most guardrails of governing. And his personal life and frail business practices sucked all the oxygen out of the air for his presidency and exposed him. Now the squeeze is on for destroying our government. The Revenge Campaign.

In politics one WEEK is a lifetime - anything and a LOT can happen… between now and inauguration, in two years, and four years. (If I live long enough to see that 😂)

It’s going to be a bumpy ride, but have you ever seen a force of aging, arthritic Freedom Fighters in action? Just you wait! (that’s from my perspective 😉) I’ll keep checking in periodically, because I miss you❣️
Have a g’day!
Gundy

Drill baby drill...

Guess who is appointed US energy Secretary?

Yes,

"Trump names fracking executive Chris Wright energy secretary"

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c93qjdjwnxko

"Wright is a climate change sceptic who previously said he does not care where energy comes from, “as long as it is secure, reliable, affordable and betters human lives”.

How can anyone agree with him politically when he changes his mind frequently and in fact says nothing that makes any sense?

Goodness knows, I suppose it must be to do with some perceived sense of injustice or something along those lines.

That people are getting a better deal without any effort.

It’s perfectly possible to not particularly like a politician, to fully acknowledge his shortcomings, yet agree with him politically.

How can anyone agree with him politically when he changes his mind frequently and in fact says nothing that makes any sense?

"Make America great again" is just a sound-bite, the kind of meaningless trope that was used during the EU referendum campaign.

The ‘country’ style of Americans is different to the city slickers from all I’ve read and shooting a badly behaved dog won’t upset them.We’re putting our UK views ( city views mainly) onto rural US states.
The anti vax thing sounds problematic unless he makes clear that it’s his own view not to have injections and not to deny them to the country at large.
Trump is surrounding himself with those he thinks loyal to him personally or those with similar views to himself.How this will pan out we will have to see!

nanna8

I’m talking about the electors not the elected here.

But the electors want people like that to run the country.