Elon MUSK - HEAD OF

RosiesMaw2

I’m not sure what the difference is between Elon Musk and Lord Alli, he of the Downing Street pass.
Lord Alli has donated thousands to various Labour politicians over the years. He gave both Andy Burnham and Liz Kendall £26,500 towards their party leadership bids in 2015 and £10,000 to Owen Smith the following year.
He became Sir Keir Starmer's chief campaign fundraiser in 2022 but has given him more than £39,000 in gifts since the previous general election in 2019.
Sky News' Westminster Accounts revealed the peer has donated almost £19,000 in luxury workwear and glasses to the prime minister and his wife so far this year.
He spent a similar sum on accommodation and other "private office costs" for him during the election campaign, accounts show.
According to the register of MPs' interest, Lord Alli has given £14,000 to Education Secretary Bridget Phillipson for "work events".
He also let deputy leader Angela Rayner stay at his New York home for New Year's Eve and gave her £2,230 in donations for clothes.

This.

Parsley3

It will be interesting to see how the Trump and Musk egos get along.

And how this will play out with the rest of the team, as neither of them are team players.

FriedGreenTomatoes2

“The President-elect has shut himself away at Mar-a-Lago to go through candidates’ profiles, and absolute loyalty is a prerequisite”

Good for Trump. No ‘Blob’ is going to hold him back from what he wants to achieve this time round. He’s had a term in office and no doubt learnt how to navigate better. He was voted in by a majority (sorry all you on here who don’t like him but hey that’s democracy) and they look to him now to Put America First. I quite envy them to be honest having such a patriot in charge of legislation. We here can only dream of such huge ambition and statesmanship being offered to us.

Is it democratic for an unelected person like Musk to be given so much power in the the most powerful country in the world
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It will be interesting to see how the Trump and Musk egos get along.

I think it is a bit of a non job to be honest but I dont pretend to have that much understanding of Trumps way of running things!

We don’t know how Elon Musk will perform, maybe it’s a bit of a non job he’s been given, or maybe DT is just rewarding him for the 100 million that was spent on the campaign trail.
EM appears to be super excited by it all anyway.

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M0nica

if America wants to go to hell in hand cart. let it. Trump has been elctedas President by a majority of voters - which is more than we can say for our current govenrment - or sevral of its predecessors.

All this shock, horror, Armegeddon beckons responses, when worthy right thinking people see any country, including their own, elect a party or policy they do not agree with is grossly overplayed.

Democracy is about people voting for what they believe in and want, and, if you do not agree, you just have to accept thatathe majority do not share your views.

Too often I get the impression that some people only believe in democracy when it is electing a government they agree with.

Ain’t that the truth!

Two dreadful men together - what could possibly go wrong????

Do you mean like the lies that Biden was ok, or that a rapist is a woman, or do you mean the lies you dont like. The left I am afraid have very little room left to complain about lies.
X is fine, it is like much social media some good some bad.
I like that it doesnt censor feminists anymore.

Patsy70

*Bea65*. Maybe this thread should read ‘Elon MUSK - HEAD OFF’? Time will tell.

Maybe OFF … the interview on SKY with BIDEN sitting down with TRUMP earlier today was a knife edge moment.. the most uncomfortable positioning of both speaks a thousand words!

RosiesMaw2

I’m not sure what the difference is between Elon Musk and Lord Alli, he of the Downing Street pass.
Lord Alli has donated thousands to various Labour politicians over the years. He gave both Andy Burnham and Liz Kendall £26,500 towards their party leadership bids in 2015 and £10,000 to Owen Smith the following year.
He became Sir Keir Starmer's chief campaign fundraiser in 2022 but has given him more than £39,000 in gifts since the previous general election in 2019.
Sky News' Westminster Accounts revealed the peer has donated almost £19,000 in luxury workwear and glasses to the prime minister and his wife so far this year.
He spent a similar sum on accommodation and other "private office costs" for him during the election campaign, accounts show.
According to the register of MPs' interest, Lord Alli has given £14,000 to Education Secretary Bridget Phillipson for "work events".
He also let deputy leader Angela Rayner stay at his New York home for New Year's Eve and gave her £2,230 in donations for clothes.

But does Lord Alli own and control one of the biggest social media platforms in the world ? And did he offer people financial incentives to vote for Labour?

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There is no such thing as user loyalty to social media channels though, is there? People go wherever best suits them, and they drop the ones that don’t. It’s constantly evolving, and when one platform loses its appeal it either has to change, accept a minority rather than universal role, or die.

Just looked it up. Bluesky now boasts over 14.5 million users, compared to competitors like Meta-owned Threads (which has 275 million users) and X, formerly Twitter (which has over 318 million users).

BlueSky? Hmm.

Twitter was a censorious left wing echo chamber, propaganda tool of the US government and Democrat electioneering tool, and then Musk bought it, expose the propaganda, stopped the censorship and allowed people with conservative views on it. so now all the Lefties want their echo chamber, propaganda and Democrat electioneering tool back, and theyre hoping that BlueSky will be it.

FriedGreenTomatoes2

^People have voted with their feet against x and stopped using it^

I left Twitter. I joined out of curiosity in its infancy (get me!) but left years ago as it was full of vitriolic lefties.

The Left don’t like it when any smart people are right-wing: it undermines their sense of superiority over others; their sense that they are the intellectuals and the rest are dimwits to be told what to do.

With all due respect that is rubbish. Intelligent people are not defined by party. The reaction from people on the right to the Labour Government in the UK and from those on the left to the Trump government in the US are mirror images of each other. Both are democratically elected. Disagreement is inevitable, so why can’t we do it in a grown up way instead of all this triumphalist one upmanship?

FriedGreenTomatoes2

^People have voted with their feet against x and stopped using it^

I left Twitter. I joined out of curiosity in its infancy (get me!) but left years ago as it was full of vitriolic lefties.

The Left don’t like it when any smart people are right-wing: it undermines their sense of superiority over others; their sense that they are the intellectuals and the rest are dimwits to be told what to do.

You should go back to it. Don't go to BlueSky though. You won't like it.

There’s a great Blower cartoon out tomorrow.
“War on Waste” has Elon Musk in a DOGE hat wielding a chain saw.
Rachel Reeves is holding a toothpick…

People have voted with their feet against x and stopped using it

I left Twitter. I joined out of curiosity in its infancy (get me!) but left years ago as it was full of vitriolic lefties.

The Left don’t like it when any smart people are right-wing: it undermines their sense of superiority over others; their sense that they are the intellectuals and the rest are dimwits to be told what to do.

if America wants to go to hell in hand cart. let it. Trump has been elctedas President by a majority of voters - which is more than we can say for our current govenrment - or sevral of its predecessors.

All this shock, horror, Armegeddon beckons responses, when worthy right thinking people see any country, including their own, elect a party or policy they do not agree with is grossly overplayed.

Democracy is about people voting for what they believe in and want, and, if you do not agree, you just have to accept thatathe majority do not share your views.

Too often I get the impression that some people only believe in democracy when it is electing a government they agree with.

Bea65. Maybe this thread should read ‘Elon MUSK - HEAD OFF’? Time will tell.

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Well said Maw and better put than I could’ve done.
“Sauce for the goose” springs to mind.

Despite all the high-minded reasoning, the turn against X is down to one thing really. Namely, control.

Twitter, when it was Twitter, was theirs. It was the platform beloved by journalists and politicians, with policies that protected their brittle sensibilities; the major platform mad enough to permanently suspend a sitting US president, purely because America’s “wine moms” demanded it.

Musk changed all that. He allowed a broader swathe of opinion, including “deplorable”, pro-Trump opinion, to be expressed on X. They’ve never forgiven him for it.

People have voted with their feet against x and stopped using it FriedGreenTomatoes2. That’s what happens when they don’t agree with biased media. Advertisers have pulled out en masse for the same reason.
It will soon be a platform for the right only, and new boys on the block will become the mainstream choice.

About $199,990,000. And that's not adding in the Twitter purchase which was $44 billion heading down the pan after it stopped being impartial and went full Trump.

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/12/elon-musk-america-pac-donald-trump-campaign

RosiesMaw2

I’m not sure what the difference is between Elon Musk and Lord Alli, he of the Downing Street pass.
Lord Alli has donated thousands to various Labour politicians over the years. He gave both Andy Burnham and Liz Kendall £26,500 towards their party leadership bids in 2015 and £10,000 to Owen Smith the following year.
He became Sir Keir Starmer's chief campaign fundraiser in 2022 but has given him more than £39,000 in gifts since the previous general election in 2019.
Sky News' Westminster Accounts revealed the peer has donated almost £19,000 in luxury workwear and glasses to the prime minister and his wife so far this year.
He spent a similar sum on accommodation and other "private office costs" for him during the election campaign, accounts show.
According to the register of MPs' interest, Lord Alli has given £14,000 to Education Secretary Bridget Phillipson for "work events".
He also let deputy leader Angela Rayner stay at his New York home for New Year's Eve and gave her £2,230 in donations for clothes.

The difference is abot