People in glass houses.....

His "cabinet" aren't short of a bob or two

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/dec/06/trump-us-cabinet-billionaires

"In a recruitment process that appears to mock his campaign’s appeal to working-class voters, the president-elect has brazenly tapped a gallery of mega-rich backers for key positions that, in some instances, will give them power to cut spending on public services that are used by the most poor and vulnerable."

"The conspicuously extravagant Musk has pledged to cut $2tn from the national budget. He has not explained how or over what period, although he has warned that it may entail “temporary economic hardships”."

Maremia Many are wondering when that will happen. Only ONE can be in the spotlight and Trump won’t relinquish that to anyone. He’s the Wizard of Oz.

What is not being reported on is the behind the scenes in-fighting on the Trump transition team. When it first came out about the turmoil it was quickly shut down.

Naming his nominees so early in the process gives opposition all the time to do the vetting process in the media, where Trump’s house of cards is imploding. It really does show the stupidity of the mental process of DJT.

petal53

silverlining48

Millions voted for Harris too. 47% for her 48% for Trump

And therefore Trump won.
We have to get on with it. It’s not in our power to change it. The Americans chose Trump.

We have to get on with it.

Well that's probably what our political elite are going to do, because that's how it works.

I assume the rest of us will be getting on with our lives, too.

But it's in our interests to be aware. When the world's most powerful man and the world's richest join forces, their reach can go well beyond their home nation.

A US senator - can't remember his name - but he's on Trump's 'team' warned that if Britain (and any other ally) in any way complies with the latest ICC ruling, “You’re gonna have to pick the rogue ICC versus America.” *

We will be sanctioned - probably with huge tariffs - which will affect our economy.

... so it isn't just about the American people, is it?

The rights or wrong of the ICC ruling are irrelevant to the fact that this will be America under Trump, telling us what we can or can't do - or else.

* Interestingly, when the "rogue" ICC made a previous ruling of which the said senator approved - he praised it as an organisation.

As I said, it's as well to be aware of what's going on - or might be, because we can all be affected by the Americans' choice.

Hard to believe why they woukd, but sadly, they did.

silverlining48

Millions voted for Harris too. 47% for her 48% for Trump

And therefore Trump won.
We have to get on with it. It’s not in our power to change it. The Americans chose Trump.

Millions voted for Harris too. 47% for her 48% for Trump

Galaxy

Trump won the election, the Democrats lost, if that is something that people don't like, it might be to useful cast a critical eye over the Democrats and try to work out why they lost. Possibly listen to the millions of Americans who voted for Trump.

Exactly.

Trump won the election, the Democrats lost, if that is something that people don't like, it might be to useful cast a critical eye over the Democrats and try to work out why they lost. Possibly listen to the millions of Americans who voted for Trump.

Admirably explained Dickens

Arto1s

I would like to ask you all, how many of you have actually lived in the US? I have spent nearly half my life in England before settling here. I think I am probably more qualified than most of you to make comments about both countries….

I think I am probably more qualified than most of you to make comments about both countries….

When I returned to the UK after living abroad for 12 years, things had changed enormously from when I left - both politically and socially.

I don't know when you departed for the US, but if it's more than 10 - 15 years since, I suspect that part of your claim is invalid.

Of course you 'know more' than we do about life now in the US - you see it close-up every day, listen to local and national news, etc, mix with US citizens.

But that doesn't alter the fact that there is an emerging European / world-wide view on the President-elect that is making people nervous about the future, their future, economically and politically.

We are not relying on gossip or political chit-chat - we can listen to Trump, we can also listen to US citizens who are having microphones stuck in their faces in order to get their take on the election and what it might ultimately mean for them on a personal level, for good or ill.

We are not uninformed about the political sphere - we might not know the minute details but we know, for example, that the candidate with the most votes won't necessarily win, because the president is not chosen by the voters but by the electoral college. And we also know that, world-wide, politics can be a rough-game, that the unexpected can happen in an eye-blink (look at South Korea for example).

So in spite of the fact that your ear is, as it were, close to the ground, we are commenting on the above basis, and it's valid - certainly as much as your take on the political life of the UK at this precise time.

I think he'd have a worse life in a prison system where Trump has power. Remember he was happy to let the mob murder his loyal vice president. What might he do to an enemy.

No I hope I wouldnt do the same, putting morality aside, Biden is ensuring his son has a terrible life, it will not end well.

It will be some firework display when Trump and Musk fall out.

Since when did President Elect Trump play by the Marquess of Queensberry rules? Biden is using his waning power to protect his son from vile vengeance. Wouldn't you do the same?

Iam64

Biden is morally wrong to pardon his son. I see the pardon. Ru a to December 2024, which raises the question is there more not yet publicised.

Trump is morally wrong.

I’m afraid keeepingquiet is correct and that Musk is a malign force here - in fact he’s a bit Bond Villain with world wide negative disruptive influences

The antics of Musk, the obscenely richest man in the world, and his puppet Donald Trump make me think of the 1960's film "Dr Strangelove" mixed with all the far-fetched bits of every Bond film.

Does Musk have some weird World Domination agenda? I think so - he's proved himself temperamental and erratic enough. All he needs now is a white Persian cat with a diamond collar.......

I've noted the appointments, Gundy - jobs for mates and some quite shocking.

Arto1s - there are plenty of Republicans who didn't vote for Trump you know.

And some of us here on Gransnet have lived in America, raised families there and many have family still living there.

Please don't assume we are all the same.

Trump of all people should not be opening his mouth after all the pardons he dished out to his criminal friends four years ago - and HE WILL BE PARDONING HIMSELF once he takes office.

The inexperienced and unqualified people he’s nominating as Cabinet members are a mirror reflection of himself. Total mental buffoonery. We are the laughingstock of the world. The next four years will be a real crap shoot.

Sorry Allira I should not have singled you out. It was not intended as being personal to you. I really meant that I was tired of responding to various comments on here. I am a Republican and so therefore voted for Trump. He is not my favourite, and I wish someone else had been running on the Republican ticket, but I do want a curb putting on illegal immigration, and I do want taxes on tips to be stopped, and I do want Sanctuary cities to go away. Much more, but I really am finished with this particular Forum now.

Arto1s

This back and forth is getting tiresome Allira

I've only posted twice 😁

I haven't counted your posts but it's more than two.

This isnt going to work you know. You have to have standards, it is no good saying 'but Trump', why should I care what Trump does if I know the standards set for Biden arent my standards.

Sorry Artols

Mollygo

Artols
Such rubbish on here. Biden and his whole family are corrupt criminals.

So how would you describe Trump?

I was hoping for an answer Attols. How do you regard Trump?

I can't blame him. It has been a witch hunt regarding Hunter Biden. What he is accused of is normally dismissed.

MayBee70

Arto1s

I would like to ask you all, how many of you have actually lived in the US? I have spent nearly half my life in England before settling here. I think I am probably more qualified than most of you to make comments about both countries….

Can I ask you how you feel about the insurrection, given that it resulted in people being killed? I can only assume that you think it was justified?

Waiting for an ‘informed’ answer…