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Proprtional Representation - some good news

(35 Posts)
Cossy Wed 04-Dec-24 12:10:03

I like PR, in principle, but would hate to see it implemented clumsily and in haste.

We need to be very clear about how it works.

I do it’s a fairer way of counting votes and represents our entire views, maybe it is time to come away from a two party system.

Sadly the Con/Lib coalition has put me off coalitions, though if there was a way of having a three way coalition Lib/Lab/Green I’d support this.

I’m sure there’s just as many Tories worried about PR as Labour, both voters and MPs.

Tizliz Wed 04-Dec-24 12:02:39

We have PR in Scotland and it seems very complicated. You know who your constituency MSP is but then you have 7 regional ones and I have little idea as to whom they are or what they do! Because of the way the list works you seem to get some Regional MSPs you have never heard of.

Silvergirl Wed 04-Dec-24 11:52:52

No system is perfect but PR is much fairer than FPTP as it reflects the actual votes of the people more accurately. The 2 big parties have nit supported it in the past because FPTP gives them more power and keeps the smaller parties out of it.

Wyllow3 Wed 04-Dec-24 11:29:34

I used to be very pro PR but when I see some of the mess countries are in - continually re negating alliances - it would depend for me I think what sort of PR offered that could offer enough stability.

Freya5 Wed 04-Dec-24 11:17:03

GrannyGravy13

I have just had a look at the percentages each party won in the last GE.

Reform came third, under PR they would have more representation than the Lib Dem’s, Labour would not have such a vast majority.

Not sure Labour will take this any further.

Of course they won't. They know they'll lose even more votes under this . Aren't we the only country who has first past the post??

Retroladywriting Wed 04-Dec-24 11:13:49

Yes, I saw that - excellent news. Even if it doesn't come into being, at least our electoral system will be discussed.

GrannyGravy13 Wed 04-Dec-24 10:47:02

I have just had a look at the percentages each party won in the last GE.

Reform came third, under PR they would have more representation than the Lib Dem’s, Labour would not have such a vast majority.

Not sure Labour will take this any further.

MaizieD Wed 04-Dec-24 10:38:39

The 'PR' offered in 2011 was not a good version. Cameron only went forward with a referendum to keep the Liberal party with whom the tories were in coalition happy.

I think we must know by now that referendums aren't a good idea...

keepingquiet Wed 04-Dec-24 10:34:06

Well when we had a referendum on this back in 2011 hardly anyone turned out to vote.

FPTP isn't perfect by any means but not sure PR has as much support as you think.

Look at France- what a pickle they're in.

Dinahmo Tue 03-Dec-24 17:16:33

Some good news:

"today marks a pivotal moment in the campaign for Proportional Representation (PR).

Thanks to your support, Sarah Olney MP’s Ten Minute Rule Bill achieved a groundbreaking milestone – passing its first vote in Parliament by a narrow margin of 138 to 136.

This is the first Parliamentary vote solely on PR since 2016, and we couldn’t have done it without you.

But this is just the beginning. The fight for fair votes is far from over, and we need your help now more than ever to sustain this momentum.

Ten Minute Rule Bills themselves rarely become law, but they send a powerful political signal of the level of support this issue has."