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Aiming to be Christmas No.1

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GrannyGravy13 Tue 10-Dec-24 15:10:29

#FreezingthisChristmas

A charity single to the tune of Mud’s It’s Lonely Christmas, raising money for pensioners in the U.K.

The PM’s decision to withdraw the WFA is not going away anytime soon.

Allira Tue 10-Dec-24 22:24:25

Rosie51

Allira I was typing while you posted, I'm a very slow two finger typist! Glad I understood you correctly. Anything else just didn't make sense.

Thanks, I thought it was clear enough but perhaps not.

Allira Tue 10-Dec-24 22:27:48

I'm sure she doesn't think you have £1000 a month left after these bills as you wouldn't then be only £13 a month over the limit for pension credit.

Quite!
If bills, without food and energy, amount to about £1,000 per month and you still have £1,000 pcm left after paying them, then your income would be C£30,000 pa.

Allira Tue 10-Dec-24 22:32:56

Oh dear, -4C in Glasgow tonight, -9C in rural Scotland tonight, stay warm Scottish Grans.

Rosie51 Tue 10-Dec-24 22:47:33

Brrrrr that's cold, my predicted overnight temperature of 4C sounds positively balmy!

Allira Tue 10-Dec-24 22:55:07

5C here too, time for a moonlit dip.

BevSec Tue 10-Dec-24 22:59:09

Love this, it just about sums up this dreadful uncaring government. Good point about monies sent abroad and MP allowances, they should lead by example but do they heck!

petal53 Wed 11-Dec-24 00:10:49

It’s a balmy 6C here on the south coast tonight. I really should be out in the garden star gazing instead of cosying up under my 13.5 tog quilt with a hot bottle (and an iPad and a sleeping husband.)
Time to stop being so nesh!

Marydoll Wed 11-Dec-24 00:32:22

Allira

Oh dear, -4C in Glasgow tonight, -9C in rural Scotland tonight, stay warm Scottish Grans.

It's not just -4C, we have had freezing fog all day. The cold was bone numbing.

I'm amazed at how many car are being sold without fog lights.

Mt61 Wed 11-Dec-24 01:15:05

Just lost my dad to Alzheimer’s & Raynaud’s disease, just before he passed, him & mum were sat with a blanket & hot water bottles too scared to put the heating on for long. Flip side of the coin- my niece live near to hotel that houses migrants- she said that most of their windows were opened, probably stifling hot. Now my dad is dead money is even tighter but because she she slightly over the threshold she can’t claim PC. Makes my blood boil. Not only that she’s eating cold food because it cost too much to put the oven on 😩this government do not care as long as they are getting their heating allowance for their second homes- why don’t they live in a shared hostel if they need somewhere to stay whilst working in the city- would make more sense!

LizzieDrip Wed 11-Dec-24 09:10:20

Mt61 I’m sorry for the loss of your dad.

Aren’t you in a position to help your mum with something towards her energy bill - surely that would be better than her eating cold food?

keepingquiet Wed 11-Dec-24 09:24:42

Just to come back in after some judgemental posts here.

There is no reason anyone should freeze to death. Pension credit has been available for years but a lot of pernsioners didn't know or didn't claim it. This meant there was a massive fund of unclaimed money in the coffers.
Now many pensioners are better off than they were and can afford to heat their homes, if they choose to do so.

I am not an 'alright Jack' at all. I frequently go into other people's homes which are cold, because for some reason they prefer it that way.

I have serious chest disease which means I will get ill if I get cold. I suppose it is a matter of choice in the end. No one can force you to heat your home.

Recently I was told of a conversation on board a cruise ship. The people were bragging about where and when they had been on several cruises that year but were up in arms that they weren't getting their winter fuel allowance.

It depends on your priorities I suppose. I can't afford cruises but I heat my home because I care about my health.

MissAdventure Wed 11-Dec-24 09:28:01

I agree.

Casdon Wed 11-Dec-24 09:29:13

LizzieDrip

Mt61 I’m sorry for the loss of your dad.

Aren’t you in a position to help your mum with something towards her energy bill - surely that would be better than her eating cold food?

Also contact the energy company, they have funds to help vulnerable people with their heating bills too.

theworriedwell Wed 11-Dec-24 09:37:16

keepingquiet

Just to come back in after some judgemental posts here.

There is no reason anyone should freeze to death. Pension credit has been available for years but a lot of pernsioners didn't know or didn't claim it. This meant there was a massive fund of unclaimed money in the coffers.
Now many pensioners are better off than they were and can afford to heat their homes, if they choose to do so.

I am not an 'alright Jack' at all. I frequently go into other people's homes which are cold, because for some reason they prefer it that way.

I have serious chest disease which means I will get ill if I get cold. I suppose it is a matter of choice in the end. No one can force you to heat your home.

Recently I was told of a conversation on board a cruise ship. The people were bragging about where and when they had been on several cruises that year but were up in arms that they weren't getting their winter fuel allowance.

It depends on your priorities I suppose. I can't afford cruises but I heat my home because I care about my health.

Exactly. Also we keep getting told pensioners are losing £300, if you are under 80 it works out at £200 and if you live with another pensioner you get half each. I don't know why they keep focusing on £300 as not everyone would get that anyway.

Lots of the people on the cruise are probably losing £100, I wonder what the cruise cost?

GrannyGravy13 Wed 11-Dec-24 09:37:48

For balance if it was the Conservatives who had withdrawn the WFA, and this song parodied them I would also be supportive of it.

Are those who are against the song and therefore must be against it raising money for AGE U.K. also against the re-release of the Band Aid fortieth anniversary release of Do They Know it’s Christmas?

Are you against any fund raising song/event, or just those which point out the failings of the Labour Government?

The Marsh family were rather prevalent with their tunes against the Conservatives, which were applauded here on GN.

Mt61 Wed 11-Dec-24 09:40:04

LizzieDrip

Mt61 I’m sorry for the loss of your dad.

Aren’t you in a position to help your mum with something towards her energy bill - surely that would be better than her eating cold food?

Thank you. No I am not in a position to help with money! we too are very careful with our heating. I do bring her here for meals, or take hot soup & stews round.. but thats beside the point I think the threshold needs sorting, as to what people can claim.
I do not agree btw that every pensioner should qualify, but it sticks in my throat that these MPs get allowance for second homes on their wages. It isn’t right!

theworriedwell Wed 11-Dec-24 09:43:08

GrannyGravy13

For balance if it was the Conservatives who had withdrawn the WFA, and this song parodied them I would also be supportive of it.

Are those who are against the song and therefore must be against it raising money for AGE U.K. also against the re-release of the Band Aid fortieth anniversary release of Do They Know it’s Christmas?

Are you against any fund raising song/event, or just those which point out the failings of the Labour Government?

The Marsh family were rather prevalent with their tunes against the Conservatives, which were applauded here on GN.

Well there is a lot of publicity against the Band Aid record, white saviours patronising Africans. Well I don't want to be a patronised pensioner. Raise money for the poor but the idea that all pensioners need charity is ridiculous and insulting.

MissAdventure Wed 11-Dec-24 09:43:33

I'd more than happily donate direct to someone who is struggling at Christmas, but it's clear to see that not everyone is, by a long shot.
I'd rather give to a GoFundMe for individuals who are having a really rough time.

Mt61 Wed 11-Dec-24 09:43:43

Nice family of singers, have you heard their songs about the labour government? 🤣

theworriedwell Wed 11-Dec-24 09:44:04

Casdon

LizzieDrip

Mt61 I’m sorry for the loss of your dad.

Aren’t you in a position to help your mum with something towards her energy bill - surely that would be better than her eating cold food?

Also contact the energy company, they have funds to help vulnerable people with their heating bills too.

And local authorities.

MissAdventure Wed 11-Dec-24 09:45:17

Never watched that family.
They just appear to be seeking attention.

Not my cup of tea, whoever they sing about.

Mt61 Wed 11-Dec-24 09:48:45

Err because most of my mums savings went on carers!

Casdon Wed 11-Dec-24 09:48:55

Mt61

Nice family of singers, have you heard their songs about the labour government? 🤣

Yes. This song is completely non political though, it’s beautifully sung, and profits are for Save the Children.

Mt61 Wed 11-Dec-24 09:52:19

Mt61

Err because most of my mums savings went on carers!

Growstuff

GrannyGravy13 Wed 11-Dec-24 09:52:47

theworriedwell nobody is forcing you to be a patronised pensioner nor are you being forced to accept if offered any of the proceeds of this record if offered.

I do not begrudge AGE U.K. the proceeds of this single, nor the pensioners who will receive help from it.