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Aiming to be Christmas No.1

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Marydoll Tue 10-Dec-24 17:10:47

Allira

karmalady

keeping quiet, of the `I am alright Jack` mentality. Where is the empathy for those who cannot afford heat?

Thank you Cressida and Grannygravy

Well said, karmalady.

What a shocking lack of empathy. I despair.

Many factors impact on heating homes and how people feel the cold: medical conditions, lack of money, poor insulation, old and draughty homes and where in the country you live.
It has been -3 C here all day. I can afford to heat my home, but am still cold.

pascal30 Tue 10-Dec-24 17:02:37

I hope the people who are going to really suffer have taken advantage of any insulation grants available.. and I would really recommend getting a heated throw or electric blanket..

I really hope too many libraries don't close.. a cold house is not a pleasant place to spend time..

GrannyGravy13 Tue 10-Dec-24 16:42:45

BlueBelle

Yes grannygravy I am just over myself as I said before
I don’t agree with how it’s been done at all but then I often don’t agree with governments policies but it’s been done and so we make our own adjustments wherever they draw the line someone is going to be just over
I certainly don’t have an I m alright Jack attitude but I think people that are in need will get pension credit If you’re a pound over as said on here then they will manage to lose that pound and apply for the help

How can you lose a £ from your pension?

These people cannot afford accountants.

If you know BlueBelle perhaps you can let Age UK, Age Concern, Citizens Advice and the plethora of charities/charitable organisations who are concerned and advising worried pensioners…

Pudding123 Tue 10-Dec-24 16:38:01

I am frequently shocked at the attitude of some GNers towards fellow less fortunate pensioners.
I was a civil servant of over 35 years and many of my friends also retired and single through marriage breakups etc are finding life very hard and can really only just manage ,one of my lovely friends daughter has to help out with her bills and she is the most hardworking capable thrifty lady so while I am pleased that the majority on this site do not have these problems a little more empathy would not go amiss.

BlueBelle Tue 10-Dec-24 16:34:37

Yes grannygravy I am just over myself as I said before
I don’t agree with how it’s been done at all but then I often don’t agree with governments policies but it’s been done and so we make our own adjustments wherever they draw the line someone is going to be just over
I certainly don’t have an I m alright Jack attitude but I think people that are in need will get pension credit If you’re a pound over as said on here then they will manage to lose that pound and apply for the help

Allira Tue 10-Dec-24 16:25:53

karmalady

keeping quiet, of the `I am alright Jack` mentality. Where is the empathy for those who cannot afford heat?

Thank you Cressida and Grannygravy

Well said, karmalady.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 10-Dec-24 16:22:59

BlueBelle are you not aware of the 1,000’s of pensioners who are just £1 over the pension credit limit?

Age U.K. and many other charities are concerned about this, are they just after publicity ?

BlueBelle Tue 10-Dec-24 16:17:39

Keepingquiet I m with you all the way I m just above getting pension credit but I m neither going to starve or freeze
It’s just another stick to beat the government with

Grannygravy you say keepingquiet I am pleased that you are able to heat your home and eat however, I am mindful that 1,000’s of pensioners are not as fortunate , then GrannyGravey then they will get pension credit and many many extras that those of us just above won’t get so they won’t freeze or starve either .
This is a publicity stunt

love0c Tue 10-Dec-24 16:06:38

It is a brilliant, well written and thought provoking song. Well it is to those amongst us who understand the meaning of 'empathy'.

love0c Tue 10-Dec-24 16:04:47

Keepingquiet - Maybe you should do exactly that.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 10-Dec-24 16:03:57

growstuff the creators of the single Sir Starmer and the Granny Harmers are raising funds for Age U.K.

growstuff Tue 10-Dec-24 15:58:41

GrannyGravy13

Cossy I also do not agree with the speed of removal or the level it was set at.

keepingquiet I am pleased that you are able to heat your home and eat however, I am mindful that 1,000’s of pensioners are not as fortunate.

I am in a similar position to keepingquiet and I won't be starving or freezing either. If I had £13 less a week, I could claim Pension Credit, so I am certainly not an 'I'm alright Jack'.

How will the profit from this song be distributed and to whom?

GrannyGravy13 Tue 10-Dec-24 15:48:00

Cossy I also do not agree with the speed of removal or the level it was set at.

keepingquiet I am pleased that you are able to heat your home and eat however, I am mindful that 1,000’s of pensioners are not as fortunate.

karmalady Tue 10-Dec-24 15:41:37

keeping quiet, of the `I am alright Jack` mentality. Where is the empathy for those who cannot afford heat?

Thank you Cressida and Grannygravy

Cossy Tue 10-Dec-24 15:37:06

I don’t agree with the way, or the speed, of the removal BUT I do agree it should be means tested, the threshold needs to be higher and we do need to take into account the amount of pensioners still not claiming Pension Credit.

I truly hope no one will die of hypothermia.

If we know we have very vulnerable neighbours, friends or relatives in the slightest danger of this we should try our best to help them in some way.

keepingquiet Tue 10-Dec-24 15:29:23

I don't know why anyone has to freeze.

I am just above the pension credit threshold (not by much!) and can still afford to heat my home more cheaply that I did last winter... I really don't know what the fuss is about.

Cressida Tue 10-Dec-24 15:28:46

In case you haven't already heard it

www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQrvmY5s2mo&ab_channel=SirStarmerandtheGrannyHarmers

GrannyGravy13 Tue 10-Dec-24 15:10:29

#FreezingthisChristmas

A charity single to the tune of Mud’s It’s Lonely Christmas, raising money for pensioners in the U.K.

The PM’s decision to withdraw the WFA is not going away anytime soon.