Bring it on Elon!

Wyllow3

Pattypee

Admittedly I've not read all this thread- however apparently Musky predicted, around the time of the southport riots, that there would be a civil war in the UK. Personally I think he should look closer to home before he comments....
However I have been shocked by the support of Reform on GN - but now understand how Brexit happened and Boris got elected. I wonder if there is a connection?

Musk is already deep in civil problems as he attempts to stop paying some federal wages (he's coming up against the Senate) and he is already targeting government workers by name as he recommends mass firings www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/elon-musk-mass-firing-department-of-government-efficiency-b2653471.html

I think matters close to home will catch up with him soon and furthermore, it will give us in the UK a chance to see what Reform might come up with following Trump/Musk policies.

There are bound to be some Reform supporters on GN, statistically alone

Musk is already deep in civil problems as he attempts to stop paying some federal wages (he's coming up against the Senate) and he is already targeting government workers by name as he recommends mass firings

How can he stop any federal wages being paid? DOGE is only an advisory department.

I imagine he and the other chap will target any individual whose job title has the word "Diversity" / "Diversification" in it, which will undoubtedly please his admirers.

Whether it's wise to target them by name is another matter. But I suspect it's a deliberate rallying call.

It's almost amusing that he thought civil war was inevitable in the UK, I think it's far more likely in the USA - even if it's only 'patchy'. And they already have the weapons to hand.

We thought that too Wyllow. And here we are. Don't take anything you have for granted, because there are people waiting in the wings to tear it all down for their own personal enrichment.

I really don't know how many people want for us to end up like that whatever our politics.

I will also say, protect your media. Right now in the US, the most unbiased and accurate information I have found about Trump and Musk is from the BBC and The Guardian. If that tells you anything.

That is great Wyllow. Hopefully your government stops the infusion.

In the US, our compromised Supreme Court has ruled that corporations are citizens and as such have a right to free speech. And they consider that free speech to include donations to politics. So we can't stop the massive amounts of money billionaires are dumping into our races.

Sorry, just saw the second post that gave the reason. I am not starting a new thread because this discussion will move over to it.

While the young people (in the US) are more savvy on technology, they are not more savvy on being able to determine what information is accurate or not. They are less so than any previous generation. They are getting "news" from podcasters and influencers, not traditional news sources. They listen to the likes if Joe Rogan and Andrew Tate. It was reported that far right extremists have been infiltrating their video games, so they are hearing this stuff from a rather young age.

On the other hand, women aged 18-24 voted Harris. Because there are women dying from miscarriages now. There has been talk from Republicans that they want to repeal the 19th Amendment giving women the right to vote. It is that serious over here.

Reform may sound like exactly what is needed in the UK, and it may be, but once Musk gets involved he will mold Reform into what he wants it to be and the people who will lose are the citizens of the UK.

I post as a warning because you all have time to stop this. You just need to stop bickering and band together and keep him out.

It seems you all are seeing this as a Reform for UK topic when you need to be looking at this as a Musk against UK scenario. Reform is just the vehicle he chooses to use.

Nah, keep on posting 🙂 both. "Musk-watch".

In the meantime, the donation issue is being looked at.

Ie defining the sort of company more closely, that allow huge donations from foreign individuals or entities,

to be channelled to political parties (or political companies)

www.politico.eu/article/uk-election-watchdog-wants-new-donation-laws-to-counter-elon-musk-nigel-farage-reform-uk/

imaround

Why would I need to start my own post? I am being respectful and I am posting pertinent information regarding the OP.

What is happening in the US with Musk is real and it is coming to your shores. You all are in a unique position to be knowledgeable and stop it before it starts.

Apologies imaround for the confusion caused by my earlier post. It was because your post was so helpful and informative that I commented on it. I was trying to say I hope you might start another thread with it as this one was becoming a little heated and I was concerned your post would vanish if the thread was deleted. But my cold fingers slipped and I posted before I was finished 🙈

I don’t usually post on politics threads. Maybe I should stick to just reading them 😀

Chocolateloving gran Oh you mean Musk is just like Starmer = Labour=Lefties!

imaround

Why would I need to start my own post? I am being respectful and I am posting pertinent information regarding the OP.

What is happening in the US with Musk is real and it is coming to your shores. You all are in a unique position to be knowledgeable and stop it before it starts.

You are most welcome imaround, the post that appeared to be suggesting otherwise was corrected.

It does feel really important that we know about not just what policies Musk pursues - but also how he does it.

It's a basis for examining any policies that might emerge from Reform due to the closeness of Farage and Musk/Trump when we see how they play out in the US.

Oh and to answer your question Maizie about what views I tolerate, I think most views should be expressed in a free society, because the alternative (suppression of views) is worse.
The fact that I am on another thread saying only fans should be banned may be a slight contradiction to this but I am not perfect

Why would I need to start my own post? I am being respectful and I am posting pertinent information regarding the OP.

What is happening in the US with Musk is real and it is coming to your shores. You all are in a unique position to be knowledgeable and stop it before it starts.

Is it an extreme party? It has some problematic people in it but so do other small parties. I vote labour but I don't underestimate reform particularly in my neck of the woods (red wall constituency).

ronib

But David49 100 seats for Reform under a pr system is still nowhere near enough to be in power. I don’t understand the hysteria.

It’s not a question of being “In Power” a small extreme party holding the balance of power that’s the issue.
We see this in Israel and other countries in Europe minority parties having far more power than they deserve.

I think Musk has Trump & Farage in the palm of his hand - useful idiots.

Wyllow3

It will be a bizarre day when people elect politicians in on the basis of the latest gadgets available.

Surely our young people can see further than that.

Like I say above only time will tell..

These are the same young that have elevated Andrew Tate to great heights.

I follow musk a bit since I drive a Tesla so keep a track of goings on. He has employed some of the greatest software engineers about so I am sure data mining will be child's play

Talking to GC and many young people here and around Europe in the Tesla I can say the kids have an appreciation of him that can't be underestimated.

imaround, thank you. Please keep posting.
I fear Mr Musk sees himself as omnipotent and all - knowing ( a bit like God, only with more money) so just needs everyone to do as he says. ...or else.
I find him very alarming and am surprised that others do not.

It will be a bizarre day when people elect politicians in on the basis of the latest gadgets available.

Surely our young people can see further than that.

Pattypee

Admittedly I've not read all this thread- however apparently Musky predicted, around the time of the southport riots, that there would be a civil war in the UK. Personally I think he should look closer to home before he comments....
However I have been shocked by the support of Reform on GN - but now understand how Brexit happened and Boris got elected. I wonder if there is a connection?

Musk is already deep in civil problems as he attempts to stop paying some federal wages (he's coming up against the Senate) and he is already targeting government workers by name as he recommends mass firings www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/elon-musk-mass-firing-department-of-government-efficiency-b2653471.html

I think matters close to home will catch up with him soon and furthermore, it will give us in the UK a chance to see what Reform might come up with following Trump/Musk policies.

There are bound to be some Reform supporters on GN, statistically alone

Casdon

Mine don’t. They have left X, which is losing users at a dramatic rate.
mashable.com/article/elon-musk-x-declining-user-base-2025#:~:text=X%20likely%20to%20continue%20losing,in%20the%20UK%20and%20EU.
However it’s not our own children and grandchildren who determine the influence of social media platforms, it’s the millions, not the single figures that matter.

Look at how Tesla are developing a mobile phone that will rival Apple iPhones but instead of using mobile networks it is allegedly will use starlink Musks own satellite internet so no mobile blackspots.

The above will be a game changer that most young people will want. Musk is using his money to create things that people want so his reach will be vast

I think Labour in the things they are saying have realised this, it will be interesting to see what they can do about it.

Admittedly I've not read all this thread- however apparently Musky predicted, around the time of the southport riots, that there would be a civil war in the UK. Personally I think he should look closer to home before he comments....
However I have been shocked by the support of Reform on GN - but now understand how Brexit happened and Boris got elected. I wonder if there is a connection?

Casdon

Mine don’t. They have left X, which is losing users at a dramatic rate.
mashable.com/article/elon-musk-x-declining-user-base-2025#:~:text=X%20likely%20to%20continue%20losing,in%20the%20UK%20and%20EU.
However it’s not our own children and grandchildren who determine the influence of social media platforms, it’s the millions, not the single figures that matter.

Time will tell then..

Mine don’t. They have left X, which is losing users at a dramatic rate.
mashable.com/article/elon-musk-x-declining-user-base-2025#:~:text=X%20likely%20to%20continue%20losing,in%20the%20UK%20and%20EU.
However it’s not our own children and grandchildren who determine the influence of social media platforms, it’s the millions, not the single figures that matter.

Wyllow3

Interesting, why do you think he will get the young vote onto Reform? They are more media savvy about media manipulation and how it works? What is it about Musk's politics that attracts the young?

My GC love everything about what he does, Tesla the whole spaceX thing. I bet most hang off his every word.

Interesting, why do you think he will get the young vote onto Reform? They are more media savvy about media manipulation and how it works? What is it about Musk's politics that attracts the young?