Bring it on Elon!

MaizieD

^be very careful what you wish for^

I think that ronib wishes for a Reform government, David...

She may get her wish too.

MaizieD

^I'll bet FGT is chuckling after lighting the blue touch paper. hmm^

I did think it was the sort of post that was best to ignore, but people do rise to the bait.

Maizie it is entirely possible that Musk will interfere in the same way as the US.
Why does he do it, because he can!. It’s just another challenge to him.

MaizieD

^I'll bet FGT is chuckling after lighting the blue touch paper. hmm^

I did think it was the sort of post that was best to ignore, but people do rise to the bait.

There was a discussion on either ITV or BBC yesterday, and it was said that both Labour and Conservatives were/are worried about Reform gaining momentum put to the next election.

Elon Musk’s financial contribution will enable more Reform candidates and a slick PR Election Campaign.

be very careful what you wish for

I think that ronib wishes for a Reform government, David...

Badenoch and Farage are strange bedfellows but the prospect of power will bring them together for sure.

I'll bet FGT is chuckling after lighting the blue touch paper. hmm

I did think it was the sort of post that was best to ignore, but people do rise to the bait.

ronib

I think the average British voter has more pressing concerns than Musk and Reform. Most importantly survival.

Unless the Conservatives and Reform form a pact, it’s most likely that Labour will win the next election due to fptp . Can’t see Badenoch and Farage teaming up so Starmer will have a clear run.

Judging by the number of voters that chose Reform, PR would given a large number of MPs today, be very careful what you wish for.
A PR system would have given them nearly 100 seats, that is not a prospect I look forward to.

GrannyGravy13

Why do posters think it ok to insult another poster?

Question their post/views by all means, resorting to insults, totally unnecessary HousePlantQueen

I think that the opening post rather set the tone of the subsequent discussion..

Maybe you are right Dickens. What most scares me is that we are so polarised in our views.
Even in my own family, one DS called his brother woke recently which wasn't meant kindly but it shouldn't be a reason to condemn him as a lost cause.
I like to hear all sides of a debate.
As for this thread:
I'll bet FGT is chuckling after lighting the blue touch paper.

GG13 It happens on many posts. i notice it is always the same people too.

Why do posters think it ok to insult another poster?

Question their post/views by all means, resorting to insults, totally unnecessary HousePlantQueen

HousePlantQueen

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Labour and the Liberals and a lot of the Tories, are the adults in the room, the right sort of people, the clever types, the enlightened ones, the philosopher kings, there to save the benighted befuddled lumpen masses from themselves.

That's why, the last time the twerps - of which I'm one - had the nerve to vote the wrong way, Brexit, that's why the better people went crazy, trying every legal lawyer liar three card trick in parliament and in the courts, whilst more of their number painted their faces yellow and blue and wore silly clothes outside parliament, and brought their dog along for good measure (the wooferendum). And Starmer was, don't forget, the shadow minister in charge of thwarting Brexit.

So, yes if they know they're going to lose, I fully believe they'll go into cheat mode to stop an electoral meltdown.
They've got form.

May next year? Gerrymandering by any other name don’t you think?

What price democracy now Mr. Starmer? You’re tanking it in the polls, you know it so Something Has to be Done.

Have you forgotten to take your medication? This post is unintelligible

How rude of you. FGT2 post makes perfect sense to me.

I dropped by to have a read. Not stopping.

I think the average British voter has more pressing concerns than Musk and Reform. Most importantly survival.

Unless the Conservatives and Reform form a pact, it’s most likely that Labour will win the next election due to fptp . Can’t see Badenoch and Farage teaming up so Starmer will have a clear run.

Rosie51

What a nasty post! I may not agree with FGT's politics but that's uncalled for! Says far more about you than her.

Its why I dont comment much on N&P any more.

I copied this from the Reform website.
Only Reform will stand up for British culture, identity and values.
What powers are Reform selling to the very non British Musk to make him think it is worth his while to meddle in British politics? Reform need to tell us what Musk is getting in return for his investment so that voters can decide whether or not it is a good thing. They won't take it on blind trust, will they?

David49

I am pretty sure only a UK based business can contribute to a political party, the problem with Musk is that the could buy or form a UK business just to do that. He obviously makes a lot of money in the UK from Tesla products and X ( twitter) social media, so does have business interests here.

Farage himself is just a spoiler that makes outrageous statements to get media attention, Reform is a problem because it’s highly unlikely to form a majority, but holding the balance of power in a coalition is a real prospect in 5 yrs time.

It’s very possible that Starmer will fail in his bid to turn the UK economy before the next GE, having made Labour unpopular in the process. Then a Tory / Reform coalition is very possible that is going to be very bad indeed for the UK.

It’s very possible that Starmer will fail in his bid to turn the UK economy before the next GE, having made Labour unpopular in the process. Then a Tory / Reform coalition is very possible that is going to be very bad indeed for the UK.

Entirely agree.

Grammaretto

I actually meant to share this: why is Elon Musk trolling Britain

www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0026jt9?partner=uk.co.bbc&origin=share-mobile

Thanks for the link Grammaretto - it's interesting, but I don't think it delved deeply enough into Musk's motives.

It was one of those questions the answers to which raised more questions than it answered. I don't think anyone will be persuaded to reflect on their opinion, for or against the man.

Personally, I'm wary of anyone with huge wealth who signs up to and promotes a political ideology regardless of what that ideology is.

I am pretty sure only a UK based business can contribute to a political party, the problem with Musk is that the could buy or form a UK business just to do that. He obviously makes a lot of money in the UK from Tesla products and X ( twitter) social media, so does have business interests here.

Farage himself is just a spoiler that makes outrageous statements to get media attention, Reform is a problem because it’s highly unlikely to form a majority, but holding the balance of power in a coalition is a real prospect in 5 yrs time.

It’s very possible that Starmer will fail in his bid to turn the UK economy before the next GE, having made Labour unpopular in the process. Then a Tory / Reform coalition is very possible that is going to be very bad indeed for the UK.

I actually meant to share this: why is Elon Musk trolling Britain

www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0026jt9?partner=uk.co.bbc&origin=share-mobile

This Mark Coles' profile of Elon Musk programme is worth a listen:

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07tq925

I just looked up the Reform UK policy line up. It is nearly identical to what Trump and his cronies have brought to the US. I hope it works out for you all better then it did us.

I am moving back into the realm of trying to regroup to work around what Trump and Elon have planned for us as best as I can. I wish you all well for the future.

nanna8

Replace Starmer with someone strong and respected. Not rocket science is it ?

Who do you suggest?

I just saw my typo. Sorry.

Rosie51

imaround

You may not be blaming her, but others are.

All I am trying to get across is, don't let the chatter drown out what us really going on. England still has a chance to stop this. We do not.

Just for information it's not England but the UK which comprises England, Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales (given in alphabetical order so as to avoid offence). I don't know why so many Americans don't realise we are a union and NI,Scotland and Wales aren't just 'parts' of England.

I know exactly what compromises the UK, thanks.

It will be interesting to watch what Scotland and Northern Ireland does if the UK goes down this road. Especially if the UK turns farther away from the EU and aligns with Trump and Elon.

But you all keep being pedantic about it. I am sure that will help.