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Lord Peter Mandelson UK’s ambassador to the USA

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GrannyGravy13 Fri 20-Dec-24 09:41:36

It is being reported on most news outlets online and mainstream breakfast news programmes that Lord Mandelson is to begin his new job of U.K. Ambassador in the new year.

Old images of him with Jeffrey Epstein are all over social media sites, coincidence…

*Posted edited by GNHQ on OP's request*

Wyllow3 Sun 22-Dec-24 13:55:24

I agree.

He's clearly a "marmite" figure looking at all the posts above but what matters is the need for a wily old fox in the camp.

The New York Times concentrates on his experience in trade relationships on the tariff question which could be the issue facing us most, alongside membership of Nato and all the security implications.

(And also his controversial history with Trump)

Jockytaff Sun 22-Dec-24 13:49:05

Grantanow - he has 2 things in his favour : he is a snake & he has the skin of a rhino.

Annma Sun 22-Dec-24 13:16:42

He may not be perfect -who is?But one thing he has in abundance is guile.He is a wily old fox and will be more than capable of putting our country’s needs first.He is more experienced than the awful Trump and Musk show.He will be a safe ,experienced pair of hands who will be ready to deal with the Orange One’s machinations.

Castafiore Sun 22-Dec-24 12:52:11

Mandelson has never shown the brilliant political judgement he’s credited with. He did lead the 1997 election campaign, but Labour were so far ahead that they would have won anyway. He’s infatuated with rich people, and has always been in favour of disastrous policies like privatising public services. We all know what happens when these are run for shareholder profit.

grannygranby Sun 22-Dec-24 12:22:19

I think it is a good posting. He is experienced.confident and did a brilliant job in northern ireland.

wibblywobblywobblebottom Sun 22-Dec-24 12:01:07

The most important diplomatic role for the UK is with NATO not the US. Peter Mandelson looks nothing like Bill Gates. At the moment the UK should stay well away from the US.

Ladyleftfieldlover Sun 22-Dec-24 11:17:34

IMO Mandy is the perfect choice. He is devious and very clever (which trump isn’t) and will do a good job. Mandy and Ronaldo will bring a certain something to the Washington residence.

Many senior politicians (across the world) have lambasted trump over the years, and with good reason.

Mt61 Sun 22-Dec-24 01:21:51

Did he serve time in prison?

Dickens Sat 21-Dec-24 21:44:39

Oreo

Better go pack or will be accused of derailing the thread😲

... keep us (1) updated then Oreo, and (2) Mandelson in his place. Go girl!

Dickens Sat 21-Dec-24 21:41:25

25Avalon

After the derogatory remarks he’s made about Trump in the past I don’t think his appointment will work. He’s already being described by Trump’s aides as a moron. Presumably along with Lammy.

Boris Johnson once publicly accused Donald Trump of stupefying ignorance - it didn't prevent them from becoming 'friends'.

If Mandelson fails, it's unlikely to be because of his criticism of DT, or the co-campaign manager who called Mandelson a "moron", more likely it will be his 'take' on China, the EU and globalisation.

Former Trump aides and chiefs-of-staff (2018) have called Trump an "idiot", a "dope", and a "moron"... I think these epithets get bounced around political circles in America in a way that we are not used to in the UK - our politicos do it more behind closed doors.

Maybe they're just exercising their First Amendment rights to Free Speech!? hmm

Oreo Sat 21-Dec-24 21:28:16

Better go pack or will be accused of derailing the thread😲

Allira Sat 21-Dec-24 21:23:32

Oreo

I’m doing it for GN, sisters doing it for themselves doncha know😄
Am now officially a SPAD 😊 he may not need a job share but will def need an advisor.First thing I’ll tell him is to stop smiling evilly, its scary, secondly to stop looking like he just stepped outta Savile Row, a missing button or two, scuffed shoes and ruffled hair will make him look more like Joe Public.
It worked for Boris.

😂😂😂

Atta girl! Sort 'em out.

Iam64 Sat 21-Dec-24 21:11:01

Go Oreo -

Oreo Sat 21-Dec-24 20:39:17

I’m doing it for GN, sisters doing it for themselves doncha know😄
Am now officially a SPAD 😊 he may not need a job share but will def need an advisor.First thing I’ll tell him is to stop smiling evilly, its scary, secondly to stop looking like he just stepped outta Savile Row, a missing button or two, scuffed shoes and ruffled hair will make him look more like Joe Public.
It worked for Boris.

Allira Sat 21-Dec-24 20:06:47

Iam64

That’s good Allira, do you think she will take the job. WFH might help

😁
She's packed a suitcaseful of choccy biscuits already.

Oreo keep posting - we need updates!

Iam64 Sat 21-Dec-24 20:01:17

That’s good Allira, do you think she will take the job. WFH might help

Allira Sat 21-Dec-24 19:55:37

Oreo, sorry you don’t get the job. You weren’t being appointed to play nice but to co- work with the Prince of Darkness. Anyway he’s been touch and doesn’t want a job share.
I understand that Oreo has been appointed as his Special Adviser.

Mollygo Sat 21-Dec-24 19:50:26

I think he’s a good choice to send. Manipulative-so he’ll recognise when he’s being manipulated.
Chequered past so Trump won’t feel he’s been given someone who can look down on his own misdemeanours.

Galaxy Sat 21-Dec-24 18:42:53

Trump is politically clever. In the same way as at times Johnson was/is.

25Avalon Sat 21-Dec-24 18:24:13

After the derogatory remarks he’s made about Trump in the past I don’t think his appointment will work. He’s already being described by Trump’s aides as a moron. Presumably along with Lammy.

Anniebach Sat 21-Dec-24 18:05:32

Agree Iam: and I think he is right for the position,

Iam64 Sat 21-Dec-24 17:53:16

I may be wrong, something might go wrong early but I see Peter Mandleson as a good appointment. He’s an experienced operator.
Anniebach, I’d completely forgotten it was his sexuality that had him named Mandy. I don’t believe that kind of derogatory demeaning of a gay man by journalists would happen now. Calling him a moron though, quite acceptable. It’s one step forward two steps back.

Oreo, sorry you don’t get the job. You weren’t being appointed to play nice but to co- work with the Prince of Darkness. Anyway he’s been touch and doesn’t want a job share.

Dickens Sat 21-Dec-24 17:46:01

love0c

Trump will eat him for breakfast. Trump is a very clever man. Unlike Mandelson who just thinks he is!

Trump is a very clever man

shock

In what way do you think he is clever?

It's a serious question - I have never heard him be described thus previously!

I think he's wily and artful, but not skilful.

Really not sure that it will be Mandelson who is served up for breakfast.

Dickens Sat 21-Dec-24 17:23:48

Oreo

Allira

Oreo

DT is very thin skinned and has a good memory for those who insult him. The choice for Ambassador should have gone to a person with a clean record on that score.

Yes, but who?

A Gransnetter perhaps?

😂I’ll do it, a stint in the US being well paid is right up my street.As long as DT doesn’t look at GN and my comments about him.😲🤭

😂I’ll do it, a stint in the US being well paid is right up my street.As long as DT doesn’t look at GN and my comments about him.😲🤭

grin

Allira Sat 21-Dec-24 16:16:52

M0nica

Jaberwok

Actually be doesnt. He comes across as someone who is imitating a suave old Etonian, but, scratch the surface is obviously a Grammar boy impersonating a Public boy!

Have you ever met any of these 'suave Etonians' you talk about? Most of them are conmen and find faking the false idea of an old Etonian, pays very well.

I have met several old Etonians they varied from the very ordinary, chap in the Claphm omnibus to the delightful kind and courteous people many of them are.

And then again, there's Boris! 😁