Two men charged with assaulting police officers after the Manchester Airport brawl

I’m just glad that the right decision has finally been made and I hope these two vile men get a strong punishment for their disgusting behaviour.

Casdon

In what way isn’t the leader of Reform making a public statement about an ongoing CPS investigation not interfering Freya5?

Not only were Farage's comments interfering in a complex police CPS investigation problematic in terms of interfering with due process and self publicising,

but as one poster pointed out above, it actually left a number of people with the impression that the prosecution only took place as the result of private civil proceedings!

I can remember a thread about 2 months after events saying "why has nothing happened yet" and posters pointing out just how much evidence had to be sifted through (events at the airport happened in 3 different places - CCTV, webcams, witness statements)
as well as the complications of decision about ?police prosecution.

petal53

I’m pleased that the right decision has been made.
I’m surprised it took so long, but it got there in the end.

A good result, the video of those men showed frightening levels of violence, hope they get long sentences.

Freya, the reason the rioters were processed so quickly was in an attempt to stop the riots which were dangerous.

The criminal justice system is backlogged. There are reports of 5 year waits for some rape trials. The government is taking action, as the previous govt should have done but it’s not going to happen over night. The CPS rightly gave detailed attention to the assaults at Manchester airport, we need to ensure a fair trial and no getting off on technicalities.

HousePlantQueen

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Wasn’t it more Farage (I think) saying this was disgraceful (it was) and saying if prosecutions weren’t made a civil action would be undertaken?

Farage, as always, cannot let an opportunity for self promotion go by.

This case, like all cases, was reviewed by CPS, and a trial (not sentencing as a previous poster erroneously said) will commence in January. This is how the law operates in this country, whatever the skin colour or religion of the accused.

And you cannot miss an opportunity to give Farage a good metaphorical kicking can you? 😵‍💫🤓…

Finally. The original footage gave a very one-sided view of the incident. I don't suppose it will stop the shouts of racist from some/

I’m pleased that the right decision has been made.
I’m surprised it took so long, but it got there in the end.

In what way isn’t the leader of Reform making a public statement about an ongoing CPS investigation not interfering Freya5?

HousePlantQueen

Wyllow3

Surely the initial appearance will be to enter pleas of guilty or not guilty, not commence a trial?

Unless I'm wrong, a full trial will then be scheduled if the pleas are not guilty

If pleas are guilty, sentencing is then the next step, either immediately or at a further hearing.

Yes, this trial will be like any other, assuming of course, that the interference and stirring by Reform hasn't given the accused's defence team plenty to argue about.

Did Reform interfer, no. They just said they would take out a private prosecution if the CPS did not. I find it strange that these thugs, seen on video, attacking police officers were not charged and put in jail as quickly as those who rioted.
That is what gives the idea of two tier policing.

There is still an ongoing investigation within the police, with the possibility of disciplinary action. The initial video footage showed the police officer kicking one of the brothers as he lay on the floor. Its shock value was lessened but not wiped out by subsequent CCTV film of the attacks on police by the two brothers. They are insistent they are innocent victims of police violence.
My experience of working alongside the police in difficult situations has been relief at the skills shown in defusing, keeping volatile situations calm. I don’t say kicking a man in the head is acceptable but. I can’t help thinking this young officer had the red mist come down after a prolonged assault on him and his colleagues. It’s so easy to expect our police to be professional, to remain calm in any situation. In fact that is my expectation and experience. Despite this I have sympathy with that young officer. He and his colleagues appear, on what we know so far have been subjected to high levels of violence. I accept I don’t know the full story, none of us do. I very much doubt the CPS would have decided to charge if it didn’t have a high expectation the evidence would lead to conviction.

Wyllow3

Surely the initial appearance will be to enter pleas of guilty or not guilty, not commence a trial?

Unless I'm wrong, a full trial will then be scheduled if the pleas are not guilty

If pleas are guilty, sentencing is then the next step, either immediately or at a further hearing.

Yes, this trial will be like any other, assuming of course, that the interference and stirring by Reform hasn't given the accused's defence team plenty to argue about.

Surely the initial appearance will be to enter pleas of guilty or not guilty, not commence a trial?

Unless I'm wrong, a full trial will then be scheduled if the pleas are not guilty

If pleas are guilty, sentencing is then the next step, either immediately or at a further hearing.

HousePlantQueen

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Wasn’t it more Farage (I think) saying this was disgraceful (it was) and saying if prosecutions weren’t made a civil action would be undertaken?

Farage, as always, cannot let an opportunity for self promotion go by.

This case, like all cases, was reviewed by CPS, and a trial (not sentencing as a previous poster erroneously said) will commence in January. This is how the law operates in this country, whatever the skin colour or religion of the accused.

I was thinking we need a conviction before sentencing.

Good.

It seems that this has been carefully considered before the decision was made to proceed and that would have taken some time.
A good decision not to bring charges against police officers who were dealing with an extremely difficult situation which could have escalated into something worse.

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Wasn’t it more Farage (I think) saying this was disgraceful (it was) and saying if prosecutions weren’t made a civil action would be undertaken?

Farage, as always, cannot let an opportunity for self promotion go by.

This case, like all cases, was reviewed by CPS, and a trial (not sentencing as a previous poster erroneously said) will commence in January. This is how the law operates in this country, whatever the skin colour or religion of the accused.

Stephen Watson, chief constable of GMP said today he was lifting the suspension on the officer seen kicking one of the accused
I’ve asked gransnet to combine the threads or take mine down

JenniferEccles, British citizens are treated equally in law. as Casdon asks, where do you suggest British citizens can be deported to

JenniferEccles

Good. I’m especially pleased that the poor violently attacked police had no charges brought against them.

I hope the vile attackers are locked away for a very long time.
Ideally I think they should be deported for the level of violence involved, particularly to the women officers, but that won’t happen of course.

Where do British citizens get deported to though, or are they not British citizens?

I’m relieved the CPS is taking the right action TerriBull. We know there are serious backlogs in the Court system, so that is probably why the decision took a while. I expect it’s also been given serious consideration given the videos shared widely in an attempt to set an anti police agenda -,imo

Thank you for your clarification Iam, I confess to being a bit vague about the case, but anyway, as you say it's good that the police officers aren't facing charges.

TerriBull

I can't remember if I'm right, I thought I read that apropos of the public's perception of two tier policing, these charges were brought about through a private prosecution. Please correct me someone if that's not the case..

No the decision to prosecute has been made by the CPS , not by private prosecution. I started a thread earlier when I commented I hope the decision reassures those worried about two tier policing.
I’m relieved they are charged with assaulting police. They responded by denying the charges, which they will fight.
I’m relieved no police officers face charges.

Wasn’t it more Farage (I think) saying this was disgraceful (it was) and saying if prosecutions weren’t made a civil action would be undertaken?

I can't remember if I'm right, I thought I read that apropos of the public's perception of two tier policing, these charges were brought about through a private prosecution. Please correct me someone if that's not the case..

About time

At last!