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Wes Streeting Is Setting Up A Social Care Commission.....

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mae13 Fri 03-Jan-25 06:45:41

......but it's not expected to report for around three years.
In other words, the whole matter is being kicked even further down the road.

If Robber Reeves can move at lightning speed to axe the Winter Fuel Allowance - in a matter of weeks - then why is it going to be the job of a long-winded commission to spend several years looking at the Social Care fiasco, probably decide it needs looking at for a bit longer.........and then just walk away?

Cheaper to just let the elderly wither away, as per usual.

M0nica Fri 03-Jan-25 07:56:19

There is another thread on this subject already up and running,

eazybee Fri 03-Jan-25 09:46:09

Yes but this post is expressing a different view from the fawning admiration of the other one.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Fri 03-Jan-25 09:50:41

Kicking the tin can further down the road comes to mind.

eazybee Fri 03-Jan-25 11:27:40

The money saved from the Winter Fuel Allowance should have gone immediately into social care, providing simple things like extra phone lines and longer office hours for people desperate to access carers as promised. Not to pacify overpaid train drivers.
Instead of the eternal 'Your call is very valuable to us but we are experiencing an unprecedented increase in the volume of traffic at this moment in time and all our advisors are busy..' Two days of constant unending calls before she made any contact.
As experienced by a friend resident in Wes Streeting's constituency, desperate to get help with her terminally ill bed-bound husband, but alone and having to rely on the kindness of her neighbours to turn him.

Oreo Fri 03-Jan-25 13:25:17

eazybee

Yes but this post is expressing a different view from the fawning admiration of the other one.

😂

Oreo Fri 03-Jan-25 13:31:52

It makes me want to pull my hair out tbh. It’s like the song Old McDonald had a farm, here a commission there a commission everywhere a commission ( quack quack) it’s a damn sight easier to discuss things than to actually do anything.

Aveline Fri 03-Jan-25 13:33:43

Absolutely. Up here they're great ones for launching 'consultations' instead of actually doing something.

M0nica Sat 04-Jan-25 09:27:24

If the money 'saved' from WFA had then been spent on something else, it would not have been saved so there would have been no benefit from stopping the WFA.

The point of stopping WFA was to reduce expenditure, not redirect it.

eazybee Sat 04-Jan-25 09:53:05

The money taken from Winter Fuel Allowance went immediately to settle inordinate wage claims.

maddyone Sat 04-Jan-25 09:59:10

I’m unsure why three years are necessary for a commission to look into social care. Anyone else know why it will take three years. It seems an inordinately long time.

Graceless Sat 04-Jan-25 12:33:15

An in depth commission that has cross party support and comes up with long term solutions will take time. The current mess is the result of poor planning and lack of funding when the community care act came in 1993. And short term tinkering after that.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Sat 04-Jan-25 12:49:43

Wes Streeting has said it will be 10 years before any major changes come into operation. Ho hum.
Talk is cheaper.

winterwhite Sat 04-Jan-25 12:59:10

Easybee My posts on the other thread are very far from fawning and talk of kicking cans down the road.

In a nutshell - IMO this doesn't need 3 years since it's clear what the problems are and the range of answers is limited. Not that much has changed since the Dilnot report commissioned by Tony Blair and then ignored/

IMO again. a truly cross-party inquiry is needed if it is going to get anywhere. All parties have something to contribute. Also, it should start from the assumption that social care should be free at the point of access, as is NHS care.

J52 Sat 04-Jan-25 13:44:03

eazybee

The money taken from Winter Fuel Allowance went immediately to settle inordinate wage claims.

Thank you this information. Who knew? I can’t find anything about this direct spending. Maybe you can inform us as to where you obtained the facts.

M0nica Sat 04-Jan-25 14:25:59

So stopping the WFA was an hypothecated tax - done with the intention of it beng used to pay specific wage rises - . The government did not say so at the time, nor has it said so since.

J52 Sat 04-Jan-25 15:10:00

J52

eazybee

The money taken from Winter Fuel Allowance went immediately to settle inordinate wage claims.

Thank you this information. Who knew? I can’t find anything about this direct spending. Maybe you can inform us as to where you obtained the facts.

Ahh, so an opinion dressed up as facts. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, but please, for clarity, state that it is an option.