LA Wildfires

NotSpaghetti

I suppose, Bea65 it's possible they went out of concern and helped anonymously on day 1 and also took a cameraman on day 2.
I don't think we should be knocking people who are helping though.

I was certain they had done something anonymously. Thanks Bea - Allsorts hasn't come back yet so don't know where she's read otherwise.

🙏

MissAdventure

I'm no particular fan of theirs, one way or the other.
I'm just amazed at how much vitriol there is for them.

I reckon some spend far more time getting worked up about them than the royals ever do.

Agree with your comments..think most Cali people were pleased to see them offer any help ..don’t think they took a personal cameraman/woman, the media globally are there..
Harry had his back turned a few times..yes as a former soldier he would offer his support wherever…🙏

I'm no particular fan of theirs, one way or the other.
I'm just amazed at how much vitriol there is for them.

I reckon some spend far more time getting worked up about them than the royals ever do.

I really never thought I'd be defending M&H so vociferously 😯

Someone made the point (could be on the other thread) about Harry being an ex-servicemen and yes, this is what service personnel (and others) do.
They run towards a disaster to do what they can to help, not away.

Our condemnation should be reserved for those who are looting, charging extortionate rents to those made homeless by this disaster.

Only certain types of virtue signallers are allowed.

The family which sang about a woman being raped by 72 men.
Tom Moore and his greedy, grasping family.

Meanwhile everyone yawns that they're fed up with Harry and Meghan, while taking every opportunity to swipe at them.

There are thousands of people volunteering at centres to help those who have lost everything in these fires. Are they al, to be condemned as virtue signallers?
Is this little lad a publicity seeker?
"Among the volunteers is six-year-old Oliver Lee, who is volunteering alongside his father, Danny Lee.'

"Let's go help, we have to. We could easily be the next victims", Danny said."
www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/c0rq8r21qkyo

If Meghan and Harry want to go and help too then well done to them, they are just two amongst many.

I suppose, Bea65 it's possible they went out of concern and helped anonymously on day 1 and also took a cameraman on day 2.
I don't think we should be knocking people who are helping though.

I was certain they had done something anonymously. Thanks Bea - Allsorts hasn't come back yet so don't know where she's read otherwise.

NotSpaghetti

Was it really their own camera crew?
I read not. I read they had been helping (in masks) previously. That they had collected and brought in children's clothes etc.

I don't feel particularly warm to them but I think we should know what is truth and what is made-up.

I don't know where I read it.
Where did you get your info Allsorts

They always remind me of Wallis Simpson and the Duke.. him in her shadow.. I think they have completely lost their role in a similar way.. but maybe they are truly trying to help..

NotSpaghetti

Was it really their own camera crew?
I read not. I read they had been helping (in masks) previously. That they had collected and brought in children's clothes etc.

I don't feel particularly warm to them but I think we should know what is truth and what is made-up.

I don't know where I read it.
Where did you get your info Allsorts

NotSPAGHETTI Yes M&H were there 2days - the first day wasn’t publicly known they were distributing clothing etc and now some viscous people slating them on another thread ..awful comments …
Anyone who shows a little humanity or are
a humanitarian, others love to knock you down…sad society 😢

Was it really their own camera crew?
I read not. I read they had been helping (in masks) previously. That they had collected and brought in children's clothes etc.

I don't feel particularly warm to them but I think we should know what is truth and what is made-up.

I don't know where I read it.
Where did you get your info Allsorts

Its humbling, seeing those firefighters and helicopter pilots risking their lives. Shame in Trump for his usual spiteful comments. Also on Harry and Megan, who with their own camera crew visited some affected by the fires can they sink much lower. They must be in high alert for any photo opportunity. Immaculate as usual.

Always droughts in parts of Australia. I laughed at the eucalyptus tree comments. Mostly when you build a new house there will be some pre existing eucalypts around. The councils don’t let you cut them down, they are protected. We have several but you have to get a permit to get rid of them and if they are healthy, as ours are, no permit is given. I suppose you could break the law and pay a fine but most of us would not.
They are indigenous to most areas of Australia, you certainly can’t cut them all down. Most fires ( over 90%) are started by humans not ‘nature’ .

ronib

vivaldi Australia must have a few tips on having firebreaks and clearing away wood and combustible materials… it really isn’t rocket science. And how about improving water storage? The Democrats have failed in California that’s for sure.

I may be wrong but thought that areas of Australia had been suffering drought or 3 years?

The blame game is just unpleasant and unhelpful. Trump isn’t yet in power so leave it out. I actually think someone like him will be a better leader in a crisis than the Democrats.

Typo … is on Monday …

Trump is the President Elect and is in the transition of power period. I imagine that Kamala Harris has authority to organise help and support for the rest of the week. The Inauguration is Monday is on Monday 20 January at 5 pm. Trump is not in a position to order help until then.

this is so terrible for those having to escape the fire. The things that you dont think of now, but furniture can be replaced but your photos of your family and special little reminders of your family are the things that can never be replaced.
As for Trump, in these days of being able to join and compare film, there should always be one of the pictures of him denying that there is climate change etc , next to whatever lies and rubbish he is spouting now. His usual selfishness and denial of realities of life , showed him wanting to water golf courses etc. It does seem so strange that americans want to vote in as president a liar, cheat, and selfserving sexist moron who is a convicted criminal . I dont give much for their chances of getting help or leadership in this time when it is so needed. Well we pray that the wind drops and that it will rain to help things.

The pilots of the helicopters and planes that have been dropping water are just incredible.

Lots of clips on social media. Utmost skill and bravery.

Correction….they are the ones who will have to search for human remains after the fires have gone

I also feel for the fire fighters and their loved ones who must fear for their safety. What a terrifying job to have to do, knowing that all the time your life and the lives of your fellow firefighters are on the line. Trying to contain a fire that is uncontainable due to strong winds. And they are the ones who will have to search for human remains for the fires have gone.
Certainly will cause PTSD for some of them.
In my book they are the heroes whether they manage to contain the fires or not.

Crossstitchfan

God keep them safe, and all others in this same awful predicament

Amen 🙏🙏

God keep them safe, and all others in this same awful predicament

there are many questions why the fires started in so many different areas and spread quickly with the wind changes.
my sister-in-law says that although Cali is used to wildfires between the months of June and November this is unprecedented. This disaster started December and ongoing
She believes because much of the land is so scorched rainfall is low that fires just break out
Mother Nature is unstoppable when the wind changes despite all the best efforts of fire people and other services. You cannot underestimate the Santa Ana winds and other wind changes in California..
There will be many losses human and animal not yet known ATM due to this inferno and trauma for many …the air quality has never been great in OC - can’t imagine how the vulnerable, elderly and young children and disabled people are coping..🙏

dalrymple23

I don't have a television, so have to rely on what is posted on line. I read that the inferno was started by an arsonist. Is this true or false? My daughter & her family lived in the Pacific Palisades but, fortunately, they moved to New York last month. Their LA house is no more. Toast. She was sent a photograph by a former neighbour. Terrifying.

this article might help, but the many fires didnt originate in one place

www.nbcnews.com/weather/wildfires/are-arsonists-responsible-los-angeles-wildfires-rcna186949

This was written by expert fire investigator as of course "cause" is under investigation.

How terrible. I think many of us will know people from southern California even if, like me, it is through a Facebook group. Thankfully, the lady I know in this way is safe, but she can see the fires in the distance. So many well-known people have lost their homes, too. Whoever they are, whether known or unknown, rich or poor, it is a terrible situation and our hearts go out to them. I know there are several ladies from Australia here who know only too well what they are going through. 💐