LA Wildfires

ronib

Mt61 good sales pitch for home filtration products but no mention of any need for reservoirs. Interesting.

??? Not sure what you mean ronib!

Also the water basin has been very low for many years because of their love of swimming pools, golf courses and watering their gardens.. If there is a big rebuild, and who would want to do that in such a risky area, there will have to be a big move towards water conservation.. and presumably de-salination plants..

Louella12

It's not fake news. You're falling into Trump speak yourself.

All I said was he's on record pointing out that California was not maintaining the land and was at risk of fires. Was he being altruistic? I doubt it. But that isn't the point. Whatever reason he may have had, there are clips of him saying that California would be at risk of burning. Which has happened.

I'm aware of his climate change stance but that's not the point.

You know who else was calling out the drought? Everyone in the state and around the country. Long before, after, and during the loud mouth’s late to the party 2018 political jabs.

You know whose administration offered little to no federal intervention beyond the arm pulling of California’s reps? Trump’s

Calling out a political opponent and doing nothing while your political party had the numbers in the house and the Senate doesn’t make him an advocate of anything but his own political agenda. Talk is cheap. He wasn’t main voice. He wasn’t a leading advocate. He took no real actions.

My point was providing context for your misleading headline regurgitation. If we are going to “be fair” let’s tell the whole truth. Otherwise, it’s fake news

mae13

It appears Harry'n'Meghan went to Pasadena to offer consolation to those who lost everything in the fires. Good thing they remembered to take their photographer with them.

They live in southern California. If you think anyone needs to bring their own photogs to snap celebrities during times like these, you fundamentally do not understand the landscape. The cameras are everywhere, snapping every celebrity they can. TMZ photogs literally camp out in front of their homes watching them, following them running errands. I don’t understand why any celebrity who wanted privacy would live there. People even sell maps that note where celebrities live to tourists. Camera phones in the hands of every day people capture inane things like celebs walking their dogs. But sure, ignore the reality to take a dig.

It's not fake news. You're falling into Trump speak yourself.

All I said was he's on record pointing out that California was not maintaining the land and was at risk of fires. Was he being altruistic? I doubt it. But that isn't the point. Whatever reason he may have had, there are clips of him saying that California would be at risk of burning. Which has happened.

I'm aware of his climate change stance but that's not the point.

Louella12

This is an issue that Trump has been calling out for years. 2018 and 2020 he was calling for better maintenance of the land. So I guess he's just reminding folk. Should have held off for a while though.

The fires are just horrendous. I do hope they're all contained and rebuilding can start as soon as possible.

*The Governor of California, @GavinNewsom, has done a terrible job of forest management. I told him from the first day we met that he must ‘clean’ his forest floors regardless of what his bosses, the environmentalists, DEMAND of him. Must also do burns and cut fire stoppers," the former and upcoming president posted to X in 2019. *

Let’s not re-write history. Trump was criticsing political opponents. This issue of a dry California long pre-dates his recent presidential campaigns and he wasn’t close to being a driver of any solution. It’s this kind of revisionist history that is dangerous. I would know, I lived there for years. Reading recent headlines to make Trump look better won’t cut it in the face of the truth.

He wasn’t advocating for the environment. He and greedy Republicans have been against any type of water conservation for years. They are very historically anti-climate change, anti-environment and he the Bushes have consistently filled their administrations with anti-enviornment, anti-regulation business people. Why post typical political jargon when his track record, the real proof says otherwise? Trump being an advocate of solving the drought is fake news, folks.

The state has an insurer of 'last resort' but their current reserve is $20 million - they are going to be bankrupt and of course it is the poorer people who will suffer.

pascal30 remortgage might be one option? Buy a kit home is another? Government initiatives to help rebuild homes?

Mt61 good sales pitch for home filtration products but no mention of any need for reservoirs. Interesting.

When they interviewed the Gold medalist swimmer, who lost his home, he said that 70% of people in his area did not have insurance..
How will people be able to afford to live in temporary accommodation, possibly unable to work because the fire has destroyed their workplace and afford to rebuild?

Also they will have lost their computers and paper documents.. not to mention clothes and cars.. How on earth do they start rebuilding their lives..

California is in an earthquake zone so wood is preferred building material as houses collapse easily when badly shaken. Also wood in plentiful supply in USA and cheap.
Something of a problem all in all ?

Mt61

Absolutely maybee70, I didn’t recon on service staff 😩

Reckon on service staff (no glasses 🙄)

petra

This is a very good piece on why/how California has a water problem.

www.springwellwater.com/cause-of-california-water-crisis/#:~:text=%2C%20farms%2C%20etc.-,Unsustainable%20Groundwater%20Pumping,portion%20of%20its%20water%20supply.

I heard that on one of the American news stations & btw, I don’t read the Daily Mail

The footage I saw yesterday of people going back to their homes was harrowing.

However, they were all saying they could rebuild and have their homes back bigger and better in a short time. They seemed very confident, but maybe it was shock?

I found this very difficult to understand, unless they are going to build in brick with distance between houses.

A lot of work to be done here. I would hate to be in the US right now- what a mess!

Absolutely maybee70, I didn’t recon on service staff 😩

Thanks for the link Petra

This is a very good piece on why/how California has a water problem.

www.springwellwater.com/cause-of-california-water-crisis/#:~:text=%2C%20farms%2C%20etc.-,Unsustainable%20Groundwater%20Pumping,portion%20of%20its%20water%20supply.

Mt61

Imagine being the person that’s had the back yard fire & that’s the end result!

There is only one news outlet that is claiming this fire started in a back yard and that’s the Daily Mail. 🤷‍♀️

Re building on areas likely to flood.

I was looking at how many homes the area I live in is supposed to be building.

Twice as many as are currently being built.

We suffer from flooding in many areas already. Cannot imagine where some proposed properties will go, but there will be problems.

Mt61

Louella12

To be fair though, Trump has been banging on about this for a long time.

However, many of the affected celebrities have been voicing their disapproval on X.

So not just Trump.

News channels were saying how these celebrities were fleeing for their lives, I feel heartbroken for them but I feel sorry for the normal “Joe Bloggs”, most of these celebrities probably have other homes to move into but these ordinary folks are going to be homeless.

Also a lot of the huge mansions would have had servants who will now be homeless and jobless.

mae13

It appears Harry'n'Meghan went to Pasadena to offer consolation to those who lost everything in the fires. Good thing they remembered to take their photographer with them.

I’ve just been looking at a clip of that.

Hugs from them both, particularly Meghan.

Shades of a ‘royal disaster visit’.

I would not want a home, however good the view etc if it had history of fires. Can't see how any company would offer insurance on them.
Over here they build on blood plains, every year certain homes and areas get flooded. How do builders get permission. There's too many people needing homes. This country needs to dance the oroblems it's causing. Where are people supposed to live? The devastation caused to families must cause such trauma, they get verged up which can take over a year and within months it's happened again.
It's always sticking a plaster over a problem then it's panic stations,

It appears Harry'n'Meghan went to Pasadena to offer consolation to those who lost everything in the fires. Good thing they remembered to take their photographer with them.

HousePlantQueen

Ah, I didn't know about the fish. As for googling "Trump Smelt".....could be risky if the rumours are true....so I may give that a miss, thanks.!

Well, that's what I did and the first results were all about Trump and the endangered fish

I don't use google as my search engine, though...

Had to do some granny jobs