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Sebastian Gorka joins the club

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Galaxy Sat 11-Jan-25 12:27:04

But he is right. She is our responsibility.

Barleyfields Sat 11-Jan-25 12:26:10

I trust the UK will not submit to this disgraceful blackmail, because that’s exactly what it is. I’m sure we have enough terrorists here already without adding to their number.

This bullying interference in the domestic affairs of another sovereign state is totally unacceptable, but is likely to increase after Trump’s inauguration and the formal appointment of his team of bully boys.

M0nica Sat 11-Jan-25 12:25:17

I beeive - and have always believed that Shamima Begum should be allowed to return home.

She was only 15 when she made the decision to go ti join ISIS and we see case after case in this country where girls of that age have been lured and misled into coercive re;lationships - as in all the concern about gangs of men offering inducements then coercing girls her age and younger into sexual activity.

Except that she was lured abroad, and is of Bangladeshi origin. how does her case, in principle differ from the girls in Richdale, Oxford etc etc. What she has done since is irrelevant. she was a gullible child who did what she was told to do, she has had three pregnancies which have gone full term and the baby later died.

I do not think we should bring her back and just let her run free. I think close supervision, debriefing and education will be needed, probably a period in custody. But the fact that a (male) home secretary has made this decision is no defence of it.

If this view is unpopular, and I am pretty sure it will be, I am untroubled. Justice is often not popular.

Sarnia Sat 11-Jan-25 12:10:59

Sebastian Gorka, part of the Trump administration, has said that if the UK want to remain an ally of the US, they need to allow Shamima Begum to return to the UK.
David Lammy said she has been through all the courts and will never to return.
Weasel Farage has completely changed his tune on this subject from outrage at the very idea of it to being 'thoughtful' as he puts it, to her return.
We all know what Nige is playing at. He yearns to be part of the Trump/Musk big boys crowd so mustn't be seen to rock the boat in that direction.
Gorka doesn't need to join the club in telling the UK what to do.